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shmokes:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on March 24, 2009, 03:03:57 pm ---
While you're all up on that horse, consider that the consequences of the design flaw outweigh your personal convenience.  Police have better things to do than chase down a guy whose hardon called 911 on a cell in his pocket.  It's not like it called your grandma. 



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Noted.  While you're all up on your high horse consider that Blackberry has sold hundreds of thousands (millions?) of Blackberry Pearls.  Why don't you take a look at what a google search of "blackberry pearl emergency calls" turns up.  Now multiply the numbers you gleen there by about 10,000 to arrive at approximately the number of people with this issue who don't post about it on the internet.

So go ahead and wax self-righteous on me, but if your concern is wasted emergency resources perhaps your ire is a bit misdirected.  You're missing the forest for a tree.  I think what you mean to say is, "Yeah, Jesus, that's a major design flaw.  Shmokes is right; Blackberry should spend about five minutes to write a firmware update to correct this issue for thousands of people using this phone.  In the meantime, shmokes, you ought to take measures to stop contributing to the problem."  

To which I might reply, "Yeah, agreed, as I stated earlier, I've started putting the stupid thing in standby mode.  How obnoxious, huh?"

CCM:
I don't think the issue is whether the phone has a design flaw or not, the issue is your blatant disregard for wasting the time and resources of emergency services.



--- Quote from: shmokes on March 24, 2009, 02:55:51 pm ---Surely you wouldn't say that a poorly designed roof with eves that begin to sag is not poorly designed because after one or two of your eves began sagging you didn't go around and prop poles underneath them to give them added support.  Maybe there's an inconvenient solution to your problem, but that doesn't mean the eves weren't poorly designed.  Shrug.


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There's your problem right there... your house has eves instead of eaves!  How the hell is your house even standing..   ;D

CheffoJeffo:
shmokes, shmokes, shmokes ...

I don't think that anybody is arguing that there isn't a design flaw with the phone. If it could be really fixed with an OS upgrade, then it likely would have been.

The manufacturer's defect explains perhaps the first 3 or so times (for me, it would have been 1) that you have dialed 911 by mistake.

Every time after that, however, is pretty much due to you being a dumbass and/or having no regard for the fact that you *are* dialing 911 and consuming services best used for emergencies.

Perhaps, because the issue can be traced to a poor design, you feel that absolves you of responsibility. The fact that it inconveniences you to either use a sleeve (I never said that Mrs. Cheffo keeps her phone in her purse, did I?) or to put the phone in standby does not mean, to my mind, that you should willfully continue to do things that you *know* will have a particular outcome.

At what point in time does shmokes assume responsibility for what shmokes *knows* is going to happen when shmokes does certain things ?

To put it in terms that a lawyer might relate better to ... coffee is hot and cars move -- if you spill coffee on yourself while driving maybe you shouldn't be so quick to just blame McDonald's.

 :P

We can deal with the analogies another time ... they were a response to your "iPhone/how retarded is that" analogy ... and just about as relevant!

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: shmokes on March 24, 2009, 03:57:03 pm ---To which I might reply, "Yeah, agreed, as I stated earlier, I've started putting the stupid thing in standby mode.  How obnoxious, huh?"

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I would have if you intended to do such a thing.  You lost credibility on that point when you said it has happened as many as ten times. 

Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me... fool me ten times and we start calling you a Shmoking Bush.

shmokes:

--- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on March 24, 2009, 03:46:24 pm ---It's not like we're discounting your frustration . . .


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Um . . . are we reading the same thread?

I agree that there are measures that I can take.  They are all bad.  I don't want to keep my phone in a sleeve.  It's inconvenient.   It's not how I want to use the phone.  Not to mention that I shouldn't have to spend extra money to fix a design flaw.  

While I understand why it's easy to call 911, it can obviously be too easy.  We've been discussing a particular example of too easy.  I'm sure you can imagine an infinite number of other ways 911 dialing could be made too easy.  

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