Author Topic: 2 SFIV wireless xbox360 sticks in 6 days, Finished (Read 32103 times)

Bender · « **on:** March 14, 2009, 06:23:16 pm »

Ok,

here's the motivation
a bunch of us guys are going up to Funspot next weekend and I wanna have a killer Sreetfighter round robin in the hotel were stain' at
I got the 360 and I got a projector so all I need are some killer sticks

I've been watching Gatsu, Kaytrim, and Dmworking's cases
so I've stolen a bit from everyone (hope you all don't mind)
plus some great advice from cappadonna

I've got limited time as were leaving a week from today
so although I've hacked the wireless 360 controllers before I've recruted HarumaN to do two for me,
so all I have to do is construct the boxes, come up with some art, which I'm hoping Gatsu will help me out with.
Do some quick crimping and I should be ready to go (yeah right!

I wish it was that easy)

this is the design, I did today
I wanted them to work on a table as well as on your lap, hence the rounded edges on the bottom

let me know what you all think

I'm going to start cutting in the morning

cappadonna · « **Reply #1 on:** March 14, 2009, 09:53:22 pm »

Good lookin' design man. One piece of advice.......I know your on a time schedual but TAKE YOUR TIME. I have hurried thru projects and really made a mess of them before. I think you would rather you impress your friends with a kick arse stick a week late than a pizza hut pizza box with buttons jammed into it. (Anyone seen those pics

) Anyway, just my 2 cents. If you need any info or help let us know and best of luck

Gatsu · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2009, 12:12:20 am »

just lemme know what you need artwork wise. I'd be glad to set something up for you.

Bender · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2009, 12:47:36 am »

Quote from: Gatsu on March 15, 2009, 12:12:20 am

just lemme know what you need artwork wise. I'd be glad to set something up for you.

Gatsu,

Thanks so much for sharing!

Apparently I didn't look hard enough, you had already posted what I was looking for in the artwork forum

Damn that is one fine looking CP overlay!
It looks even better at full res

any input on the stick layout?
I really respect you design aesthetic and building experience, on these
I see you are using a 7 button layout are you using that with the console version too?

this thing is roughly 15" x 10" x 3" at the widest points
what is the rough foot print of yours? (I know you have a few designs, but roughly)

hope you don't mind me picking your brain, but I got a steep learning curve and a short period of time

stephenp1983 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2009, 12:59:36 pm »

Nice designs. Do you plan on using something like this http://tinyurl.com/czlzjq so you can use a play and charge kit and not have to open the stick up to recharge each time? If so I'm interested to see how you implement it into the stick. I've been looking for one similar to the one in the link that was round and easier to put in a button slot.

Gatsu · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2009, 01:09:31 pm »

Quote from: stephenp1983 on March 15, 2009, 12:59:36 pm

Nice designs. Do you plan on using something like this http://tinyurl.com/czlzjq so you can use a play and charge kit and not have to open the stick up to recharge each time? If so I'm interested to see how you implement it into the stick. I've been looking for one similar to the one in the link that was round and easier to put in a button slot.

those are great. but you gotta buy alot of them to justify the $10 shipping they charged me to ship just 2 of them...

stephenp1983 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2009, 01:19:45 pm »

I have one in a stick kaytrim built for me. I noticed you can take it out of the metal housing and give it a round shape. I wonder what the size it is without the metal housing

Bender · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2009, 01:24:37 pm »

I was just planning a hinged panel on the bottom to get to the battery

I have a couple extra batteries, I hate the cords, so I refuse to charge n' play anyway
I have a charger that always has 2 extra batteries in it ready to go

Bender · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2009, 12:46:27 am »

got the rough cuts done on all the pieces and the finished the top on one, so all I have to do is copy it with the good old pattern bit
still have to round some of the edges on a few of the other pieces.

I dry fit one together to see what it looked like
not to bad for one day

Bender · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2009, 12:50:49 am »

Hey Gatsu,

not to be a pain, but I'd really like to know if you've used that 7 button layout with the console SFIV and if you like it.
Be good to know before I start drilling

Thanks,

Bender

Gatsu · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2009, 08:37:14 am »

I like it. Though its better suited for a mame arcade machine....to switch between capcom and neo-geo games.

I'd stick with either the 6 face buttons....or go all the way with 8. So you can have 1 set to all 3 punches, the other for all 3 kicks.

Bender · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2009, 08:42:30 am »

Quote from: Gatsu on March 16, 2009, 08:37:14 am

I like it. Though its better suited for a mame arcade machine....to switch between capcom and neo-geo games.

I'd stick with either the 6 face buttons....or go all the way with 8. So you can have 1 set to all 3 punches, the other for all 3 kicks.

Thanks Gatsu!

umm, good to know

I think I'll try 8, something new

Gatsu · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2009, 08:43:31 am »

yep and if you dont like it you can always plug the holes up.

Franco B · « **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:38:22 am »

They look great so far Bender.

Ive started work on mine over the last couple of days and mine look near identical to yours but mine have rounded corners, lol.

What angle did you go for for your CP slant? I was going to go for 10 degrees but it looked to steep and would have made the back panel too tall for me so I went for 5 degress in the end.

Bender · « **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2009, 02:30:41 pm »

Quote from: Franco B on March 16, 2009, 10:38:22 am

They look great so far Bender.

Ive started work on mine over the last couple of days and mine look near identical to yours but mine have rounded corners, lol.

What angle did you go for for your CP slant? I was going to go for 10 degrees but it looked to steep and would have made the back panel too tall for me so I went for 5 degress in the end.

I went with 10, I like a good angle
~~which corners are you rounding?~~ just saw the thread update, the photo of those side pieces could have come from my shop last night, screws to hold the template are even in the same position, you weren't kidding they're pretty close (great minds and all

)
I designed mine to laminate, cause I don't have time to paint, so that severely limits the curves I could do, If I were to paint the design would be pretty different I think

I never want to be building the same thing you are, it's way too depressing
mine will look like garbage in comparison

~~I know~~ yours are ~~going to be~~ amazing!
~~can't wait to see~~

these are just quickies, but I think they'll be fun to play

finally picked up the game today, man does it look great!
8 buttons is definitely the way to go for this

Bender · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2009, 02:09:16 am »

1 day to design, 3 day to build

everything went really well the last couple of days so I finished um up, except for the wiring (I should get the controller hacks on thurs)
so here is the rest of the build for the first one

Base pieces laminated

top CP Laminated

Bottom of CP laminated

close up of inserts for joystick mount

Bender · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2009, 02:21:11 am »

I didn't have time to make custom art, so I adapted the fantastic artwork from one of Gatsu's CPOs that I loved (thanks so much for sharing Gatsu!)

The First one done

on the back I have the Start, Back, Xbox Guide, and Sync buttons (the Sync is recessed so as not to hit it accidentally)

the bottom panel is held firmly shut with 2 pairs of magnets I epoxied in
the inside waiting for some wires

AWWW, look they're so cute together, too bad they'll be used to destroy one another!

I was amazed how quick this went, making 2 was really only like 10-15% more work

ViciousXUSMC · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2009, 02:30:47 am »

Man that is coming along pretty fast & nice. Looks nice and pro.

do you have good wood working tools? Cutting the boards would by far be the hardest part for me doing it by hand with no real work area/table.

Bender · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:00:30 am »

yeah, I gave up the garage for a shop, (well worth it)

no way I would have been able to whip this out without it

javeryh · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2009, 09:28:01 am »

Awesome job Bender! How did you apply the art? Is there clear plexi on top? It looks like you laminated and then covered with the artwork. The hardest part for me would definitely be the controller hack since I've never done something like that before. I assume you are just ditching the analog stick and wiring up the d-pad to the 8-way? Everything looks great.

Gatsu · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2009, 12:07:08 pm »

thats a sexy stick man.

what kind of joystick do you have in it?

I like how you modified the artwork too. Colors are real good.

Bender · « **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2009, 12:48:32 pm »

Quote from: Gatsu on March 19, 2009, 12:07:08 pm

thats a sexy stick man.

what kind of joystick do you have in it?

I like how you modified the artwork too. Colors are real good.

I have JLW's in there now

I happened to have 2 of them on hand from my work on modding U360's
I would have gone with JLF's but as you know can't get em right now

Thanks for the complement on the art but really 99% of it was your hard work

Bender · « **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2009, 12:52:45 pm »

Quote from: javeryh on March 19, 2009, 09:28:01 am

Awesome job Bender! How did you apply the art? Is there clear plexi on top? It looks like you laminated and then covered with the artwork. The hardest part for me would definitely be the controller hack since I've never done something like that before. I assume you are just ditching the analog stick and wiring up the d-pad to the 8-way? Everything looks great.

yes, the analog is ditched for this type of stick (someday I want to remedy that)

the art is printed on sticky-backed vinyl and then covered with clear polycarbonate (like Mame Marquees does for CPO's)

Franco B · « **Reply #23 on:** March 19, 2009, 04:20:46 pm »

Looks great Bender, very pro!

Where abouts is your hacked pad going?

Do you need Home, Start, Back and Sync buttons?

I was only planning on Home and Start. I dont think I generally use back. What is the Sync button for? I imagine if you need to resync your controller(s)? I dont think I have ever touched my sync button whilst playing on my 360.

Im not saying you should/shouldn't use whatever, I'm just curious.

Bender · « **Reply #24 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:12:07 pm »

Quote from: Franco B on March 19, 2009, 04:20:46 pm

Looks great Bender, very pro!

Where abouts is your hacked pad going?

Do you need Home, Start, Back and Sync buttons?

I was only planning on Home and Start. I don't think I generally use back. What is the Sync button for? I imagine if you need to resync your controller(s)? I dont think I have ever touched my sync button whilst playing on my 360.

Im not saying you should/shouldn't use whatever, I'm just curious.

Thanks Franco,

the pad is getting squeezed below the buttons, it's a REALLY tight fit. I'll post some pics when I'm done wiring

I do need the sync button cause I'm planning on using them at friends houses and with the Benderama
as for the back button it's used as menu button on some games and I'm just paranoid if I don't have it I'll need it

MrMojoZ · « **Reply #25 on:** March 20, 2009, 09:22:55 am »

The back button is useful in the SFIV trial modes, I'd spend the effort to add them.

Bender · « **Reply #26 on:** March 20, 2009, 01:42:59 pm »

I had feeling it might be useful

Bender · « **Reply #27 on:** March 20, 2009, 01:51:43 pm »

the wiring is done on the first one, man it was even a tighter fit than I thought

I'm off to do the second

stephenp1983 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:18:42 pm »

That looks great bender, and it came out really fast too. You should start making blanks to sell over at shoryuken, and cash in on the sf4 craze

Bender · « **Reply #29 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:23:44 pm »

ok, The second one is all wired up

ALL DONE!

a special thanks to HarumaN who rushed out two conroller hacks for me, Thanks Buddy and Fantastic Work! couldn't have pulled it off in time without those.

Played a little, and man it's fun

here's a pic of the wiring, not that pretty, I'll probably redo it down the road, but it works
oh yeah, I had to route out the a space in the bottom so the battery pack would fit

Franco B · « **Reply #30 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:12:13 am »

Looks great Bender, good job

I think I will go with the back and sync buttons too then, thanks for the info MrMojoz.

It may only be me but I cant see the second stick in the update on March 18th, the last two pictures don't load.

Ralman · « **Reply #31 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:33:12 am »

Wow, these came together extremely fast, and look amazing.

I am jealous!

Bender · « **Reply #32 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:38:57 am »

they load for me

see if you can see them here

Gatsu · « **Reply #33 on:** March 21, 2009, 01:18:57 pm »

can we get some more shots of the two together?

SG Jaycurl · « **Reply #34 on:** March 22, 2009, 12:14:05 pm »

Nice work. I just started on my first sticks, and I was thinking about a somewhat similar design. I like how you did a lot of stuff here, so this helps me with ideas. Thanks a lot!

GaryMcT · « **Reply #35 on:** September 13, 2009, 03:08:52 am »

Once again you are an inspiration Bender! Starting to design a controller for a friend. . . ripping you off as much as possible with this one.

Bender · « **Reply #36 on:** September 13, 2009, 10:24:26 am »

Feel free!

I ripped off a bunch of people to design it
as always, let me know if you need any help

Kaytrim · « **Reply #37 on:** September 13, 2009, 10:42:34 am »

Quote from: GaryMcT on September 13, 2009, 03:08:52 am

Once again you are an inspiration Bender! Starting to design a controller for a friend. . . ripping you off as much as possible with this one.

No offense to Bender who did an excellent job but if you want more inspiration check this out.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=201537 Tones of different sticks done by all kinds of people. Anything from cardboard to rare exotic woods. Here is another site that is devoted to just joystick builds. http://www.joystickvault.com/

TTFN

Michael


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Author Topic: 2 SFIV wireless xbox360 sticks in 6 days, *Finished* (Read 32103 times)

Author Topic: 2 SFIV wireless xbox360 sticks in 6 days, Finished (Read 32103 times)