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Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: shmokes on March 04, 2009, 02:19:27 pm ---Look at the very first entry on my list of good war movies.  Das Boot.  One of the best movies ever made.  Now notice the absence on the list of U-571.  That's no accident.  Now how can I possibly think that Das Boot is one of the best movies ever made while U-571 is lame?  They're both war movies that revolve around a particular German U-boat . . .

Maybe it's cos in spite of the interesting subject matter, the movie sucked.  Hmm . . . like Black Hawk Down.

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A movie is good or bad is all opinion.  What I'm saying is, if you like the subject matter the movie was based on, you'll like the movie.

It's funny you mentioned Das Boot.  I was in 6th grade when I saw that movie.  My friend’s mother who was a child in Germany during WWII rented that movie for us to watch because she saw it multiple times in the theater and didn’t think the R rating should stop us from watching it.  My friend had a Beta deck and it was the only movie I ever saw on Beta... Why is this important, because I don’t remember anything about that movie all I remember is it was painfully slow to watch and it was on Beta.

Das boot was in theaters when World War II survivors were going to movies. So the movie had more meaning to the audience.  Since it was a big deal when it first came out that influences how people look at it today.


Just look at the break down of people who agree that Black Hawk Down was a bad movie.  They're either too young to care about what happened, or they don't want to know.

It’s all relative to how you feel about the subject matter.

TOK:

--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 04, 2009, 03:07:10 pm ---A movie is good or bad is all opinion.  What I'm saying is, if you like the subject matter the movie was based on, you'll like the movie.


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He just gave you a point that disproved your comment... Das Boot and U571 are about the same subject, one done well, one done poorly.  I enjoy WWI and WWII history, but Pearl Harbor and Flyboys were both absolute crap.

If anything, knowing/liking the subject matter makes a lot of people more critical of movies. I saw a history fanatic logically pic Saving Private Ryan apart.

massive88:
I have also seen movies about boobies that I liked, and others that I didn't, and it doesn't get more basic of a pro/con then boobies.

Subject matter is only a small part of making a good movie, or is every remake of a movie the exact same "goodness" as the original?  I mean, the subject matter is the same.

The position that those who didn't like the movie are too young or naive to take the subject matter seriously enough is ridiculous, it wasn't even a documentary.

Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: TOK on March 04, 2009, 03:24:31 pm ---He just gave you a point that disproved your comment...
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I pointed out that it was timing and relevance that made one movie better than the other.

It's also been pointed out by others that good and bad are just opinions.

It's just funny that the people who tend to hate Black Hawk Down, love Clinton.  Everyone else has an honest opinion about it.



--- Quote from: massive88 on March 04, 2009, 03:38:12 pm ---I have also seen movies about boobies that I liked, and others that I didn't...

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Wanna know how I know you're g@y?

   - There're boobie movies that you didn't like.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 04, 2009, 04:20:42 pm ---Wanna know how I know you're g@y?

   - There're boobie movies that you didn't like.


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I saw one once where the youngest woman was like 85.  They ain't all good...

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