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Kevin Mullins:

--- Quote from: Ummon on March 01, 2009, 07:38:46 pm ---What's the big deal?

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 ::)


--- Quote from: pinballjim on March 03, 2009, 01:07:39 pm ---The people I knew that liked it were all military, retired military, or wished they had been in the military.

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Yeah, there's a deeper meaning behind it other than just that it was a "war movie" or a "flick" as some keep describing it.


--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 03, 2009, 06:04:09 pm ---The problem is it's not an action/war movie.
It's like saying Hotel Rwanda isn't even remotely close to being the best drama or as a thriller United 93 sux.
The less you care about what really happened the less you’ll like the movie.

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Thank You.

There's a huge difference between a "war movie" and something more of a documentary nature. (re-enactment if you will)
I can't believe the term "plot" has been used in this thread in reference to something like Black Hawk Down. There is no "script" in war, you don't adjust the dialogue and characters to make it more "entertaining", it is what it is.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but dang, at least distinguish the difference between a "movie" and something that actually happened.
And yes, it's generally the nature of things that have actually happened to not be very "entertaining", especially in relationship to war.

Phew.... I feel better..... gonna go watch Family Guy now.....




patrickl:

--- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on March 03, 2009, 08:28:42 pm ---I can't believe the term "plot" has been used in this thread in reference to something like Black Hawk Down. There is no "script" in war, you don't adjust the dialogue and characters to make it more "entertaining", it is what it is.
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The movie doesn't simply tell the story like a documentary. They tried to add some form of plot. Or maybe it's just that the movie exaggerates of certain events that happened. I think they wanted to add a bit of "feel good" to the story. For instance, the hummer convoy with an immortal loon in charge or the dumb and dumber duo that gets lost and goes deaf.

Kevin Mullins:
I kinda thought about that a bit afterwords and I can see them having added some filler and fluff to stretch it into a "movie".
But you can only do that so much before it just becomes fake and no longer tells the reality side of it.
So no, I guess it didn't turn into quite the "entertaining movie" people were looking for.

I don't mean to offend anyone, just some of the comments were starting to veer away from the fact that this particular movie is based on something that actually happened.
Those people that don't "get it".... never will. 

shmokes:

--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 03, 2009, 06:04:09 pm ---
The problem is it's not an action/war movie.


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The problem is that it is an action/war movie.  And it's a bad one.  It is a dramatization of true events (aka just like pretty much every war movie ever made).  Every line of dialogue is invented by a writer.  And every line is delivered by Hollywood movie stars.  It's a Hollywood picture based on a true story.  It's just not a very good one.

Ummon:

--- Quote from: massive88 on March 03, 2009, 12:00:10 pm ---I saw it in the theaters, and I remember not liking it very much.

When my buddy who sat next to me said he liked it, I simply asked, "What was the main characters name?"

He didn't know, neither did I, and we just left the movie.  To me it just failed at telling a story, nice special effects though.

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Exactamundo.



--- Quote from: patrickl on March 03, 2009, 09:15:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on March 03, 2009, 08:28:42 pm ---I can't believe the term "plot" has been used in this thread in reference to something like Black Hawk Down. There is no "script" in war, you don't adjust the dialogue and characters to make it more "entertaining", it is what it is.
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The movie doesn't simply tell the story like a documentary. They tried to add some form of plot. Or maybe it's just that the movie exaggerates of certain events that happened. I think they wanted to add a bit of "feel good" to the story. For instance, the hummer convoy with an immortal loon in charge or the dumb and dumber duo that gets lost and goes deaf.



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Mmmmhmmm. Yes.

That's the whole thing. It's not one or the other. It's simply a depiction of a situation that happened to be a class eleven clusterfuck.

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