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| Bender:
ok you guys had me thinking I was crazy as I said several times I undersand the theory, I repeat I understand the theory I got my Apache spinner out it has only has a resolution of 48 and checked the poll rate which is 125Hz (window standard) I set arkinoid so that one pass across the screen is between 120 and 130 degrees (mame analog sensetivity set to 20) It works, but you are right it is just sightly choppier, but man you really have to look for it, and is certainly playable (though given I'm not an expert) In Tempest I saw no difference at all so I'm not crazy I don't pretend to know the mechanics of it but it just works. and Derrick you are right about the backspin, it is harder to get but when I set up the apache spinner in tempest, again the poll rate is 125Hz, there is backspin, never noticed it before cause it is so hard to do, unlike the Hi-res spinner before the patch I'm not poo-pooing the Hi-res spinner at all now that I have it fixed I'm very happy with it I just think the regular resolution spinners (by that I mean everything under 100) are getting a bad rap and the advantages of the hi-res spinner seem minimal (and moot to me since I don't even play arkinoid) I was going to post some video but I think the lo-res of you tube WOULD be an issue with the video :D in fact you couldn't tell the hi-res and the apache apart on video that small |
| Derrick Renaud:
First it seems I must apologize to Bender, he and Andy are right. A hi-res spinner locked by windows at 125Hz will backspin. The numbers must lie. Even though I can't fathom how you can spin it quicker then 13 times per second to cause backspin, it seems the initial acceleration of the spinner will overflow. :notworthy: Also, I tried my fix, and found it won't make a difference, because it seems after the input system rewrite of around version 0117, MAME now only polls the OS at 40Hz. It smooths out the data, like I planned, from there. So it all goes back to the original fix. There needs to be a way to unlock Vista64 to support 500Hz with current hardware. But failing that, if the fix is through a piece of hardware, then so be it. Let's see an Opti-Pac 2 or Opti-Wiz 2. Well I'm off to setup an XP/Vista Dual boot. Maybe I should have tried to buy XP64 instead of Vista with the new computer. :dunno |
| Derrick Renaud:
:cheers: Well I drank a couple beers and figured it out. Vista 64 SP1 can be patched to do 500/1000 Hz. The hidusbf mentioned here did not work for me. So I mixed and matched some stuff on the net and came up with this hopefully easy to follow guide. Download dseo12.exe, mouserate.exe and dimr.exe from here. dimr & mouserate both do the same thing. They show the mouse poll rate. Try both and see which you prefer. Download the "Vista USB Poolrate.7z" USB driver from here. Download RemoveWatermark_20090117.zip. Then follow these directions: 1. Copy dseo12.exe to the desktop. Trust me, you'll want it there when you lock up your mouse. 2. Copy the usbport.sys file for the refresh rate you want to c:\ 3. Run dseo12.exe and Enable Test Mode. 4. Restart the computer, press F8 repeatidly while booting to get to the boot menu. Run Safe Command Prompt mode. 5. You will probably be in the c:\windows\system32 directory so type "cd drivers". Make sure you are at the c:\windows\system32\drivers prompt. 6. execute this command: takeown /f usbport.sys 7. execute this command: cacls usbport.sys /G username:F ** Replace username with your username. Use quotes around it if your name has spaces in it. If you have changed your original user name, for some reason you have to use the name you installed Vista with. Can't remember? Check c:\users - there will be a directory there with the name you need. 5. You should still be in the c:\windows\system32\drivers directory. execute this command: ren usbport.sys usbport.old 6. execute this command: copy c:\usbport.sys 7. Ctrl-Alt-Delete. Lower right corner - Restart Windows 8. What the hey?? No mouse. Hit Alt-Tab to select the desktop. Use the arrows to select dseo12.exe that you put on the desktop. Enter to run it. Navigate with Tab and arrows as needed to finally select "Sign a system file". Tab to select "Next" then enter. Type "c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys" and then enter. Now restart the computer from the windows key. You don't need to close the program. 9. Your mouse now works. Run mouserate.exe and/or dimr.exe to verify that you now have a 500/1000Hz polling rate. 10. Yes, it now says Test mode on your screen, Get over it. Or run removeWatermark_20090117. |
| Bender:
:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: I can't seem to download the file though :dunno |
| Derrick Renaud:
--- Quote from: Bender on February 28, 2009, 11:22:16 pm ---I can't seem to download the file though :dunno --- End quote --- Hmmm.. I don't know what to do. I tried shrinking the file and re-naming it but you are right, it will not download. One of those days where nothing is working right. Give me a few minutes and I will put links to the original files. OK. I modified the post using links to the files. Not as easy but it is all there. |
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