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ViciousXUSMC:

how about some really patient sanding with a fine grit paper?  as I do not have a drill press.

No matter how loose they are they will turn with the joystick, thats just physics, but I guess what your saying is it should be nearly 0 friction and you wont feel it when it hits something while turning so it has a very smooth movement.

I wonder just how much if any that will effect how they play.

Though thing is I remember having to push hard up on the shaft with the actuator against a spring tension to put the clip on.  Im almost positive that the friction I feel is just the spring pushing the actuator down against the clip, not from the inside of the actuator gripping the shaft any.

Is there not spring tension on them or did I somehow manage to install mine in a strange way (though messing it up seems impossible)

RandyT:


--- Quote from: ViciousXUSMC on March 02, 2009, 02:37:07 am ---how about some really patient sanding with a fine grit paper?  as I do not have a drill press.

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Sure, if you can do it in a decently uniform manner.  Maybe find something close to the diameter, like a marker or something and wrap the sandpaper around it.


--- Quote ---No matter how loose they are they will turn with the joystick, thats just physics, but I guess what your saying is it should be nearly 0 friction and you wont feel it when it hits something while turning so it has a very smooth movement.

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Heh.  Yes, that's true.  But they should stop turning the moment they meet any resistance whatsoever from the red actuators of the switches.  The ones that float will stop turning just a hair off being square because they hit the red actuators.  The ones that stick are actually capable of pushing the actuators down slightly and turning more, even though they don't actually actuate any of the switches.


--- Quote ---I wonder just how much if any that will effect how they play.

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Sadly, I believe enough to be noticeable.  If the actuator is sitting at an angle to the switches when you move the stick, it's going to affect timing a bit.  The edges of the actuator really should stay as close to parallel as possible with the switches.  But it will probably depend on the games you play and whether you have a tendency to twist the stick while playing.


--- Quote ---Though thing is I remember having to push hard up on the shaft with the actuator against a spring tension to put the clip on.  Im almost positive that the friction I feel is just the spring pushing the actuator down against the clip, not from the inside of the actuator gripping the shaft any.

Is there not spring tension on them or did I somehow manage to install mine in a strange way (though messing it up seems impossible)

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There should be no tension on the actuator from the E-clip.  The E-clip should only be putting tension on the inner sleeve.

RandyT

ViciousXUSMC:


--- Quote ---There should be no tension on the actuator from the E-clip.  The E-clip should only be putting tension on the inner sleeve.
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Ahh there you go  I did not realize there was a inner part to it I thought it was solid, that explains why it rotates so easy as that spring tension is pretty tough.

Thanks for all the time & answers Randy



Zebidee:


--- Quote from: ViciousXUSMC on March 02, 2009, 03:31:30 am ---Ahh there you go  I did not realize there was a inner part to it I thought it was solid, that explains why it rotates so easy as that spring tension is pretty tough.

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That inner part is where the washers go, actually shortening the spring length slightly, if you take my method that I was talking about from the earlier thread.  The best part about using the neoprene tubing to cut 'washers" off is that you can make them however thick you want, and just put the metal washer on top to make sure that the spring doesn't destroy the neoprene.

By using this method I was able to eliminate the joystick's excess sensitivity and bounce-back in classic games, while retaining the joystick's responsiveness for fighting games.

ctozzi:


--- Quote from: Zebidee on March 01, 2009, 11:14:16 am ---
--- Quote from: ctozzi on March 01, 2009, 10:46:24 am ---Well it works pretty good on my 4 dedicated mortal kombat cabinets, have him try it and see if it works for him if not new sticks ar only like $ 12 shipped to your door so not a huge outlay of cash by any means.

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Yeah, suck it and see what works for you and your setup.

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Sweet telling me to "suck it" that's real cool how does that help anyone. What a loser, check out his machines......... One look at them says who you should listen to anyways HA HA !

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