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TurboTwist Hi-Low Spinner Backspin problem. XP 64 Poll rate, Works Now!
RandyT:
--- Quote from: Bender on March 02, 2009, 12:41:06 am ---DON'T PISS ON ME CAUSE I HAVE A LEGIT COMPLAINT
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You do have a legit complaint. But it is misdirected. That's why the software exists to remedy the reasons for your complaint.
*edit* Link to wiki added to product description to make USB poll rate information easy to find for XP users.
BTW, your argument does not take into account that the interface that ships with the TT2 and High-Low is also PS/2 compatible. The poll rate for PS/2 can be adjusted to 200hz right from the default control panel in XP and probably Vista as well, which is plenty for this application as a last resort. It should never be necessary to be forced into this route, considering the wide availability of software solutions out there, but it's a good option just in case.
Bender:
No, you don't understand
My complaint is with your claim of "Plug and Play"
You don't let customer know upfront that they need to do a little work to get the USB spinners functioning properly in xp and vista
Being Honest with customer I don't think is a lot to ask
I don't mind fixing it, that IS NOT my complaint (and I said I do appreciate your help getting it fixed)
and you know what if you helped up front by letting the customer know about the issue, I bet you could of got it working in XP and vista 32bit in 5 min.
I know I sound like a broken record but you keep missing the point
RandyT:
--- Quote from: Bender on March 02, 2009, 09:15:03 am ---I know I sound like a broken record but you keep missing the point
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Suffice it to say that I am not the only one that is doing so. The spinner is 100% properly designed according to USB specifications, usable and fully functional when plugged into the PC. If you never play a game where rapid movement, or free spin the device hard, then you won't even see the issue that is with your OS, not the spinner (driving games with the steering wheels, as one of many instances.) And if you decide, based on your needs, that your OS needs to be fixed, there are ways to achieve this, the vast majority of them simple. Or you can simply use the built-in PS/2 capability of the device and increase the polling rate directly from the control panel.
To underscore this, I just saw that you had to tell someone in another thread how to make the spinner backspin. He hadn't even noticed that his OS was imposing this software correctable limitation on him.
Some don't even use them for gaming. We sell loads of them to museums, discovery centers, and kiosk builders. They don't have your requirements and will never need to do a single thing to their systems but "plug and play".
The thing that confounds me is that you are sitting there with two perfectly functioning spinners, doing exactly what you want them to be able to do, one of which has absolutely no equal in functionality anywhere in the word and is designed and produced at great personal expense for literally a handful of the most hardcore arcade enthusiasts, and you find it necessary to quibble incessantly about one accurate point in the item's description. Makes it all worthwhile...
Bender:
NO, he asked what backspin was, so I gave him some information
Hell, I certainly didn't know what it was till I got my first TT2
I'm not quibbling, your quibbling, I just had one very simple very legitimate concern,
and now you do have me very curious.
Why so resistant to giving the customer some info upfront?
Your blaming me, your blaming Microsoft, your blaming other customers lack of understanding, and I'm not even saying the issue is your fault, just that you should, as a honest business person, let the customers be aware of the issue UPFRONT
as far as the TTH/L your right it is the only Hi res up down spinner (I still like my Apache better, but that I know is definitely personal taste)
the only reason I'm using the TTH/L is the small footprint on a specialty project I'm working on that has very limited space, and I'm gratefull it is available
I didn't want to bring you competitors into this, but since you still can't address the question I've stated three separate time now and keep bringing other stuff up...
The TT2 does has an equal (that is actually plug and play on all usb systems)
The Ultimarc SpinTrak has the same resolution and it doesn't need an OS Patch for XP and Vista, I know, I have one
Bender:
and just so you know I've just had two other members PM me and asking ME how to get YOUR products functioning properly
I'm certainly am glad to help out
but again it would be nice if you had some info out there upfront for people