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shmokes:
Not all. Just ones that you use frequently. And it's 100% up to you which programs you have there. Some programs are pinned to the taskbar by default, like Internet Explorer, but they can be unpinned just by right clicking on them.
Again, this much works very much like the Mac OS X dock. The bit about having to see it may just be right. If you've made use of the quick launch in previous flavors of windows it might be somewhat easier to wrap your head around.
The start menu is still there, virtually unchanged from Vista as near as I can tell (which isn't too bad since Vista already made the start menu significantly better than XP). You still use the start menu in the same way you always have. But you can pin programs to the task bar that you use often. It just works really well. I'm sure that once you start using it you will find how well it works. It's seriously a revolutionary upgrade. I'd say the biggest step they've taken in UI since they moved from 3.1 to 95. Seriously that big. And it's really really good.
ark_ader:
Is Shmokes working for M$ now?
I have several copies running on VMware and it is playing ball with me so far. I have been running several apps to try and break it and it has some potential. I cannot say it is a XP killer, but if it had the security of Vista with the file transfer speed of XP then we would have a interesting debate on upgrading.
I'm not sure which of the 7 versions I will purchase or upgrade from Vista with. But I will stick with XP for functionality until I can be 100% certain it is not another pile of crap. But it is great to use as a learning tool for future certifications and real world applications.
I would give the betas a miss and concentrate on the finished version when it appears in 4Q unless you are truly beta testing for your institution. I definitely would not recommend installing on a live system, but within a contained environment. I would not like to see a thread of "I lost my PC after installing Windows 7". But anything is possible here.
I'm also testing 2008 server. Its still early days, and I have not gotten out the legacy software yet. I do have issues with migrating accounts from Linux and Novell. There are mixed mode issues with old NT4 boxes too. There shouldn't be considering... :blah:
Such is life. ;D
DaveMMR:
I only ran my install on Windows 7 a couple of times but so far I'm kind of digging it. I'll reserve judgment until I do full-blown tests with my hardware and apps.
shmokes:
Not working for MS. If I was I certainly wouldn't be pointing out that much of the new functionality is copped from Mac OS X.
ark_ader, you sound like a geek. The one thing that Apple has always had on MS is that Apple's UI's (and hardware) are designed by designers, while MS's are made by geeks. I went into great deal about how amazing the new user interface is and you respond with stability, security and file transfer speed. Geeks don't care as much about user interfaces cos they just learn how everything works and they make it work for them. Maybe they get around clunky interfaces by memorizing keyboard commands. Maybe they figure out how to bypass obnoxious quirks by doing things at the command line. But that's a dumb way to think. In addition to everything I mentioned already, Windows 7 still has a command line interface. And it has greatly expanded the gamut of keyboard commands available, e.g., win+shift+right/left-arrow will jump your application from one monitor to the other (if you have multiple monitors), even if the app is maximized. Way cool! You're an advanced network guy who's worked with Novell, so surely you've seen how dangerous it is to ignore the importance of user interface even when 100% of your target market consists of professional computer geeks.
Now, don't get me wrong, stability and security and file transfer are important. In fact, I mentioned that it's very stable (especially considering it's beta software). And I mentioned that it's much leaner and faster than Vista. Obviously that's important. And without that stuff, the user interface is for naught.
BTW . . . I can't help but get a gigantic kick out of this:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 07, 2009, 09:39:28 pm ---
Is Shmokes working for M$ now?
. . . I cannot say it is a XP killer . . . I will stick with XP for functionality . . .
--- End quote ---
Are you aware that M$ makes Windows XP? ;D
boykster:
I'm probably one of the dozen or so peeps in teh world, but I like Vista...... :dunno
Mebbe it's that I don't have a ton of legacy hardware on the 3 computers I run it on, and they're new machines. One of them "vista certified", and the other 2 pretty beefy boxes with modren hardware, but otherwise, nothing special.
:dunno
I am looking forward to Windows 7 though - I'll wait for an RC or Final --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type-- I put it anywhere but in a VM.
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