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Retro-Futuristic Mame cabinet
« on: January 26, 2009, 11:00:22 pm »
Hi, I'm new to the forum and thought I'd share my new project.  For some time I've been designing an upright cabinet around an auto rotating screen. 
It's proven to be a ton of fun seeing it come together..I will update as I progress

Here are some pics...cheers

Ond

The concept design (updated 18/12/13)



Construction begins...





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Re: Retro-Futuristic Mame cabinet
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 11:07:37 pm »
That's an awesome setup.  Why can't I cut a stright line with a table saw and a fence?  :dizzy:

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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 11:12:24 pm »
That's an awesome setup.  Why can't I cut a stright line with a table saw and a fence?  :dizzy:

Thanks  ;D - I still shred plently of straight lines into firewood - just hafta start over :)

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2009, 12:09:12 am »
 :applaud:

Looking good. I'm keeping my eye on this. Good luck. Work at a comfortable speed. This looks pretty intricate.

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 01:07:12 am »
Dude, that thing kicks ass!  :applaud: :applaud:
love the design
Where did you get those bearings and brackets?

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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 01:20:31 am »
Bloody hell, what a brilliant design!!! :o
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 02:36:53 am »
Bloody hell, what a brilliant design!!! :o
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2009, 02:45:56 am »
What's the screen type?

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2009, 02:58:14 am »
Dude, that thing kicks ass!  :applaud: :applaud:
love the design
Where did you get those bearings and brackets?

Thanks!  the bearings and brackets are from a bearing wholesaler - they mainly sell to the automotive market.  I had to find something that was strong and wouldn't wobble, not a even a little bit, it has to support the 21" NEC LCD Monitor which is a heavy pro unit.  The shaft will be attached by direct drive to a stepper motor controlled by PC.  When a game is chosen in the front end (Mamewah) a small app will turn the monitor through 90 degrees.  Well thats the theory anyhow.  I have researched the stepper motor side of things a fair bit...there are motors that are torque matched to the weight  and will mount onto the frame nicely....

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2009, 03:00:09 am »
Bloody hell, what a brilliant design!!! :o
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Aww shucks :-[

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 03:06:19 am »
Only thing I don't know yet is the "Zeeuws Meisje" / "Nurse" part: the cap and the ears:



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Re: Retro-Futuristic Mame cabinet
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 03:08:41 am »
great sketchup idea!

and the first build pics look nice and clean to

good planning ! keep it up

how is the weight and stability doing now. when you get button smashing friends over i hope it wont break or fall


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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2009, 03:14:10 am »
What's the screen type?

The monitor is an 21.1" NEC Model LCD2090Uxi SpectraView 2090   , they are expensive, three times the price of my Samsung WS 22"! (my wife says " that should have been our new fridge!") it weighs 9.7Kg or 21.3 lbs.  specs are here http://nec.com.au/d7e13d2711994bce83257e3563aa225e.htm

1600x1200 native res will be used for Mamewah front end and any games that support it.  Mame just uses video hardware stretch as you know.

Why did I spend so much?  well, big 4:3 LCDmonitors are getting reaaly hard to find now....the fridge will hafta wait  ;D

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 03:21:10 am »
great sketchup idea!

and the first build pics look nice and clean to

good planning ! keep it up

how is the weight and stability doing now. when you get button smashing friends over i hope it wont break or fall



Its still fairly light due to the plywood, I'm hoping it wont be much heavier than a traditional cabinet.  The base is wide and will have powersupplies and other gear in it - shouldn't tip over.  I can lean heavily on the panel and not flex it.  I don't mind it moving a bit though (the whole thing) I'm thinking of using motion sensors connected to switches to detect 'tilt' in pinball games...I know some guys have done that - anyone know anyone who's done that?

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 03:28:03 am »
What's the screen type?

The monitor is an 21.1" NEC Model LCD2090Uxi SpectraView 2090   , they are expensive, three times the price of my Samsung WS 22"! (my wife says " that should have been our new fridge!") it weighs 9.7Kg or 21.3 lbs.  specs are here http://nec.com.au/d7e13d2711994bce83257e3563aa225e.htm

1600x1200 native res will be used for Mamewah front end and any games that support it.  Mame just uses video hardware stretch as you know.

Why did I spend so much?  well, big 4:3 LCDmonitors are getting reaaly hard to find now....the fridge will hafta wait  ;D

I love the Mame cab idea AND that monitor! I'm going to have to get one of my friends in the States to pick a refurbished one up for me.
http://www.techforless.com/cgi-bin/tech4less/LCD2090UXI-BK?mv_pc=pricescan&tts=20090123140542

Definitely a thread to watch.

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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2009, 03:42:06 am »
Hey wow, there are other dudes with rotating designs here!.....I'm in the right place yeah?

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2009, 05:15:32 am »
The best deal in that segment is still the Samsung 214T I believe.

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2009, 05:34:42 am »
The best deal in that segment is still the Samsung 214T I believe.

I did consider this unit as well, good specs, but a few bad reviews re: reliability made choose the NEC which is very rugged and comes with 3 yr warranty

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2009, 08:33:30 am »
Hey wow, there are other dudes with rotating designs here!.....I'm in the right place yeah?

Indeed you are.

Off the top of my head you should look up:

- Weisshaupts "Ghost in the Machine" project
- Cornchip's project
- DaOldMan's rotating project
- Psychotech's "Yet another Take" project
- Danny Galaga's cocktail project
- Koz's project
- Edge's project  (He used bearings from Grainger very similar to what you have!)

I've linked a few of these projects in my thread linked here in my sig.

Your design is very cool.  I too am interested mainly in the bearings.. anything you can post about part numbers, where to order, how the motor interfaces, etc.  Software wise, DaOldMan is knocking out a command line program with a plugin for MaLa to rotate via the Parallel port.  You should be able to rotate with this software from Mamewah as well.  It's still being beta tested currently, but it's pretty much ready to go.

Nice design skills!  Thanks for sharing with the forum!

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2009, 08:50:38 am »
That is AWESOME!!!

Those speakers wont interfer with the monitor being right behind it will it?
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2009, 10:40:05 am »
Love it!



Nice original idea.
one comment though,


It will get boring playing with yourself after awhile!  :o



Add a second player to that cp.

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2009, 02:45:24 pm »
That is AWESOME!!!

Those speakers wont interfer with the monitor being right behind it will it?

Thanks,  no the speakers clear the monitor - they are set back just far enough.  The speaker housings are sealed off from the main shell and ported only to the outside, its a split system with small tweeter units below angle set for best sound. 

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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2009, 02:52:20 pm »
Love it!



Nice original idea.
one comment though,


It will get boring playing with yourself after awhile!  :o



Add a second player to that cp.

The CP panel is interchangeable, there will be other configurations.  I have to come up with a simple docking system for connections so that the panel basically just lifts out.  Another great reason to be on the forum -so many ideas!


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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2009, 03:10:37 pm »
Hey wow, there are other dudes with rotating designs here!.....I'm in the right place yeah?

Indeed you are.

Off the top of my head you should look up:

- Weisshaupts "Ghost in the Machine" project
- Cornchip's project
- DaOldMan's rotating project
- Psychotech's "Yet another Take" project
- Danny Galaga's cocktail project
- Koz's project
- Edge's project  (He used bearings from Grainger very similar to what you have!)

I've linked a few of these projects in my thread linked here in my sig.

Your design is very cool.  I too am interested mainly in the bearings.. anything you can post about part numbers, where to order, how the motor interfaces, etc.  Software wise, DaOldMan is knocking out a command line program with a plugin for MaLa to rotate via the Parallel port.  You should be able to rotate with this software from Mamewah as well.  It's still being beta tested currently, but it's pretty much ready to go.

Nice design skills!  Thanks for sharing with the forum!

-csa

Thanks,  I have read your thread very interesting! you stuck to your guns and put in a ton of effort into modifying your cab.  I will share everything I do.  Its still a way down the track but the motor system will be based around a stepper motor with its own controller board and PS - this will interface with the PC via USB connection.  Steppers can be very strong and precise, yet fairly simple to rotate through any angle, the app I use to drive it will need to track position as well i.e. the screen must know what position its in even if the unit is switched off. 

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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2009, 07:10:45 pm »
Wow! Really really impressive design. I love the plywood curves. I've been planning similar curves for the top and back of my project and thought I'd have to brace them quite a bit more than what I see you've done. Are the unbraced portions of the curves relatively solid?

It's great to see the envelope being pushed. I'm just amazed at what people have been doing around here lately. The production value of these projects keeps ratcheting higher.
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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2009, 08:38:53 pm »
Wow! Really really impressive design. I love the plywood curves. I've been planning similar curves for the top and back of my project and thought I'd have to brace them quite a bit more than what I see you've done. Are the unbraced portions of the curves relatively solid?

It's great to see the envelope being pushed. I'm just amazed at what people have been doing around here lately. The production value of these projects keeps ratcheting higher.

Thanks , the plywood curves are surprisingly rigid over the whole surface.  It's probably a combination of the thickness (7mm) and the pieces I chose.  Plain ol plywood (marine ply is a different story $$  :) )varies so much across any batch, but I went looking for pieces that would produce the desired result - they only flex in one direction along the grain of the external ply and are fairly stiff.  The tension produced by the arc makes em solid!  When the front and back panels are added and joined along the edges the shell should be pretty sturdy yet still light (I hope).

I agree about the great production value across many projects on here - the ingenuity put into problem solving and seeing a design to completeion is VERY inspiring - sure motivates me.

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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2009, 12:01:42 am »
Very cool idea. and Great Progress. :notworthy:

I love the curves.

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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2009, 04:40:38 am »
Love the deisgn and the woodwork!

Will be following this one closely  :)

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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2009, 05:42:05 am »
I love this design! Very space saving but completely different! And it really does look "arcadey" still!

But why did you not make this bad boy 2 player? You could easily fit another joy a 6 buttons on there!

Loving the wood bending! And the thing looks sturdy as hell, more so than so of the fat boys I have seen on here!

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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2009, 10:18:20 am »
NEAT!

Can't wait to see it finished.
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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2009, 10:38:45 am »
Looks great. Amazing how the render looks quite fragile, but the build shows it should be quite sturdy.
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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2009, 04:58:05 pm »
Thanks for the good words guys!  ;D  I will be making more than one control panel for the cab, but the initial one will be single player only.  The next work I do will be further work on the base panels and some modifications to a coin unit I have to fit the look (not shown in the render).  I have some ideas for using optical fibre in parts of the cab as well, something I've not seen anyone do as yet.  I'm very keen to do more on it, but have to spend most of this weekend working  :cry:

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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2009, 01:38:27 am »
WOW just when i think i've seen it all someone comes along with another fresh cab. I LOVE!!

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« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2009, 03:39:56 am »
This weekend despite crazy- high temperatures I still managed to make some progress.  Firstly cut the front panel from 7mm plywood with my jigsaw. One thing I've found with Plywood - a fine blade like a hacksaw blade makes cleaner less splintered & less ragged cuts.   The shape was traced by laying the plywood sheet over the front of the unit and running a pencil along the edge.



Next I fitted it to the cab with some screws through the panels and into offcut pieces at several points along the joining edges.



Then I set about making the coin unit housing, first measured up for a good position and cut an access slot, making sure the unit clears any framework on the inside.



Then I measured and cut out the pieces for the coin housing choosing 12mm MDF for the front panel so that it can be rebated to accept the coin unit on the inside, and because most of my plywood is all bent in the heat  ::) .



These were glued together and reinforced with a few small nails & timber beading and held in my vice until dry.


(you can never have too many clamps!  ;D)

Coin unit was test fitted....



Once all dry, the coin housing was given a rounded edge with my router which I followed up by rounding the edges on any other cabinet edges as per my concept design



Then the coin unit housing was attached to the cab and coint unit mounted from inside.  I've been using machine screws which are countersunk into the timber and then covered over with Plasti-Bond (more on Plasti-Bond in upcoming posts) to mount things like joy stick and coin unit.  These units can then be removed at a later stage for repair or replacement if needed.  Any screw holes resulting from countersunk screws are filled over with Plasti-Bond.  And then sanded smooth.



Here's a closer shot showing the slots cut for coin unit and rounded off edges.  As I start to fill gaps, blemishes, screw holes and joining edges I use a can of spray putty to lightely cover the surfaces.  This shows up imperfections and areas that need more finishing / smoothing.  Most of the putty gets sanded away until the whole unit is given a coat prior to final undercoat and painting.  As I progress less and less plywood & MDF surface will be visible unit it all disappears under finishing coatings.



and the cabinet as it is to date



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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2009, 09:27:02 pm »
(you can never have too many clamps!  ;D)

Amen to that!!



Maybe it's the angle on this picture, but the hole for the joystick looks smallish to me.  Is it smaller than the typical button-sized holes?  How much smaller?

The cabinet looks truly amazing so far, not to mention unique! 
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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2009, 09:40:07 pm »
(you can never have too many clamps!  ;D)

Amen to that!!


Maybe it's the angle on this picture, but the hole for the joystick looks smallish to me.  Is it smaller than the typical button-sized holes?  How much smaller?

The cabinet looks truly amazing so far, not to mention unique! 

The joystick hole is smaller than typical button sized holes, but the plate is rebated underneath for the joystick unit, so where it mounts is only about 5mm thick.  The hole allows complete x /y movement of the stick i.e. it doesnt touch it even if you try and force it!  Thanks for compliment btw.

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« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2009, 02:44:01 am »
The joystick hole is smaller than typical button sized holes, but the plate is rebated underneath for the joystick unit, so where it mounts is only about 5mm thick.  The hole allows complete x /y movement of the stick i.e. it doesnt touch it even if you try and force it!  Thanks for compliment btw.

I was just impressed by how clean the smaller hole made the joystick area look, even without a dust washer on it.  With the details that neat, it's no wonder the project is looking so great!
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« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2009, 08:07:34 am »
Bonkers! :applaud:

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« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2009, 08:16:02 am »
I'm impressed by all the curves. Getting those to look right ain't easy! :notworthy:

Very nice. Can't wait to see how things progress!

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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2009, 09:27:06 am »
This is coming along very well. Keep up the work, cant wait to see it done.
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