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Artwork now available! X-Men 6 Player cab!
« on: January 25, 2009, 09:37:28 pm »
I scored one for a great price.  The owner tells me that it powers on but doesn't work.  Both monitors are intact with no burn in (so he says).  It's the rare 6-player version.   :applaud:

Here's my question.  I'm about to pick it up, but will it fit in a standard doorway?  Does it come apart?  That thing is HUGE!  I'm suspecting that the front part (control panel and coin door part) comes off from the rear part with the monitors, but it's so hard to tell from the pictures.

Anyone know?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Obtained an X-Men 6 Player cab!
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 09:48:00 pm »
I scored one for a mere $200 bucks.  The owner tells me that it powers on but doesn't work.  Both monitors are intact with no burn in (so he says).  It's the rare 6-player version.   :applaud:

Here's my question.  I'm about to pick it up, but will it fit in a standard doorway?  Does it come apart?  That thing is HUGE!  I'm suspecting that the front part (control panel and coin door part) comes off from the rear part with the monitors, but it's so hard to tell from the pictures.

Anyone know?

Thanks in advance!

~ DeLuSioNaL

Congrats on your cab...I wonder if it could be MAME'ized easily? I don't have the dimensions off hand of the cab but here is another pic of it for comparison purposes:


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Re: Obtained an X-Men 6 Player cab!
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 10:35:54 pm »
I scored one for a mere $200 bucks.  The owner tells me that it powers on but doesn't work.  Both monitors are intact with no burn in (so he says).  It's the rare 6-player version.   :applaud:

Here's my question.  I'm about to pick it up, but will it fit in a standard doorway?  Does it come apart?  That thing is HUGE!  I'm suspecting that the front part (control panel and coin door part) comes off from the rear part with the monitors, but it's so hard to tell from the pictures.

Anyone know?

Thanks in advance!



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Re: Obtained an X-Men 6 Player cab!
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 10:41:14 pm »

Congrats on your cab...I wonder if it could be MAME'ized easily? I don't have the dimensions off hand of the cab but here is another pic of it for comparison purposes:


And I wonder if your head can come off your neck easily.  Let's find out.

That doesn't sound like a good idea?  Neither does Maming that cab!

The cab does come apart, IIRC.  CP area from monitor area, and one of the monitors in the back also detaches.  It's in a large box in the back.  Be careful, and have help nearby.  It's a beast.

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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 01:12:14 am »
congrats....thats an awesome cabinet to have.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 01:15:01 am »
I scored one for a mere $200 bucks.  The owner tells me that it powers on but doesn't work.  Both monitors are intact with no burn in (so he says).  It's the rare 6-player version.   :applaud:

Here's my question.  I'm about to pick it up, but will it fit in a standard doorway?  Does it come apart?  That thing is HUGE!  I'm suspecting that the front part (control panel and coin door part) comes off from the rear part with the monitors, but it's so hard to tell from the pictures.

Anyone know?

Thanks in advance!

~ DeLuSioNaL

HUGE! Good luck with that thing. Can't wait to see what you do with it  :applaud:
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 06:35:50 am »

Congrats on your cab...I wonder if it could be MAME'ized easily? I don't have the dimensions off hand of the cab but here is another pic of it for comparison purposes:


And I wonder if your head can come off your neck easily.  Let's find out.

That doesn't sound like a good idea?  Neither does Maming that cab!


It makes sense if the mainboard is not serviceable and he can't find a replacement for it  :banghead:

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Re: Obtained an X-Men 6 Player cab!
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 07:26:18 am »

Congrats on your cab...I wonder if it could be MAME'ized easily? I don't have the dimensions off hand of the cab but here is another pic of it for comparison purposes:

And I wonder if your head can come off your neck easily.  Let's find out.

That doesn't sound like a good idea?  Neither does Maming that cab!

It makes sense if the mainboard is not serviceable and he can't find a replacement for it  :banghead:

Before you bang your head too much, perhaps you should explain what you mean by "MAMEize" (tm?) ?

It doesn't make much sense to turn it into a generalized MAME cab, which is the image that your suggestion evokes. Do you mean something less destructive ?
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 04:57:30 pm »
I think it would make a great MAME cab.

There's a few ways you could go with it.

Idea #1: Replace the two monitors with one widescreen monitor and use it to play widescreen arcade games like Street Fighter IV, Tekken 6, Virtua Fighter 5, or  Blaz Blue. 

Idea #2:  Keep both monitors and double the image on both screens.  This would still make the cab great for a 4-player situation, or for players to have separate monitors.  Also, you could potentially play Nintendo VS games in it.

Idea #3:  Use the ginormous control panel to make one hell of a frankenstein.  You've got room for just about every control imaginable.

Idea #4 Make it two cabinets. 

The fact that it is so big isn't really that much of an issue .  If he's got the room for it in his garage or basement, and it will let you have a satisfactory gameplay experience, then it's fine IMO.

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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 06:42:11 pm »
Nice grab, That thing is a beast.

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Re: Obtained an X-Men 6 Player cab!
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 09:00:58 pm »
For novelty value I'd advise against any kind of MAME conversion unless it's a cheap way to replace the damaged original game. As it's such a unique cab, at the very least leave the shell/controls intact and have it as a dedicated 4-player game MAME cab as these games used less buttons and the extra space this cab offers will help, plus you can have the true 6-player gameplay of X-Men when you want it.

Even though the game was a bit so-so as far as fighters went, it would be a nice cab to preserve or restore if you can befor considering a conversion.

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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 06:16:28 am »
What about a total reversible mame conversion, i mean just replacing the board with a PC that runs only the game that you are replacing (you will need 2 Jpac or Jammasd , or build your own protection for from the 31kHz to do that anyhow), you will have to build an adapter that feed the video signal from jamma ( or VGA)  to the screens and a keyboard encoder that will read the buttons .
You can use this solution until you find a working board. but avoid any  modification on  the cab.
Just build and use use converters and please don't cut/hack anything.

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2009, 07:19:54 am »
Why would you have to MAME it at all?  Every part is available for sale.  If it's a monitor problem get them repaired.  If it's a PCB problem buy a new one (I just bought an XMEN PCB for $41 shipped off eBay.).  If it's a power supply problem then replace the PSU with a nice cheap $20 switcher.

If you aren't trying to keep it original and just MAME it go ahead, you will just make every other 6 player in existence worth more.


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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 09:09:00 am »
I'd like to point out that DeLuSioNal29 hasn't said one word about converting his new cabinet into anything.  All he asked about was taking it apart to get it inside his place.

I'm thinking it's gonna be fun to see the pictures of him getting it into a truck and hauling it, let alone moving it inside.   ;D

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 11:19:32 am »
Wow, thats an amazing find!

I remember going down to the local comic book shop and playing that arcade almost every day! I have it on my MAME cab, but to have the full 6 player version would be awesome.

Hope you have a lot of friends to help!

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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2009, 01:10:40 pm »
While I certainly played this one back in the day I always wished Capcom had written the actual game. I like the art style from the Capcom X-men fighters quite a bit better along with the some nice Final Fight style beatemup game play.

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2009, 02:35:20 pm »
Wow that looks awesome, good luck moving it though.
I hope you have some french doors somewhere in your house.

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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2009, 02:35:36 am »
I have a very large cab.
I had to remove door and door jam to get it in.
good luck.
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2009, 03:02:26 am »
I'd mame that sucker with a 42"+ widescreen LCD and bezel it to 4:3 in a heartbeat :P
But then again, I never did get the itch for restoring originals. I'd have purchased that monster for the same reason I purchased my showcase.

I believe Delusional already has a mame setup though, having two would be kinda redundant, no?

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2009, 01:28:59 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2009, 02:30:40 pm »
Great idea, I hadn't thought of a PC in the interim.  Good idea.   :applaud:  But I do have some solutions up my sleeve.  I will try to re-seat all of chips first on the original PCB.  Also, I am working on obtaining a backup PCB as well that is working.   ;D

As far as "MAMEing" it into something else though:  Definitely out of the question.  I want to restore it to it's original glory!

I took a look at it last night.  Wow, huge is an understatement!  It's monstrous!  But it does indeed come apart as Peale suggested.  The front panel has 6 screws holding it on that are accessible by lifting up the hinged control panel and climbing inside (yeah, an adult would fit in there without any issues).  The monitor on the back also has a box which is also removable.  I plan to grab it in two stages.  The Control panel in the back of my SUV and the other chunk in a friend's pick-up (not full size unfortunately, which is why we have to take it apart).

But I'm having trouble locating the replacement CPO for it.  Anyone have any ideas?  Mamemarquees.com only has the 2 or 4 player versions, not the 6.

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What about a total reversible mame conversion, i mean just replacing the board with a PC that runs only the game that you are replacing (you will need 2 Jpac or Jammasd , or build your own preotection for from the 31khz to do that anyhow), you wiill have to build an adavper that feerd the viseo siognal from jamma ( or vga)  to the screens and a keyboard encoder that will read the buttons . You  can use this solution until you find a working board. but avoid any  modification on  the cab. Just use converters and please don't cut/hack anything.
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2009, 02:35:01 pm »
I believe it's a feature originally integrated on the the PCB.  I've seen auctions on the 6 player PCB and most images that are displayed on the "test monitor" that people show have the image cropped.
Does this cab splits the image of any video source or is that feature integrated with the game board?
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2009, 02:40:38 pm »
Found this image, but still no way of obtaining it yet.

Edit:  Scott at Mamemarquees.com supplied me with the high quality Photoshop file of the 4 player version.  I just need to edit that one into a 6 player version.  (if anyone would like to assist let me know... It's tough to find the original graphics of the characters).

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2009, 03:25:03 pm »
Let's make this 2 religious debates in one:
Are the outer joysticks angled on that thing?   :laugh2:

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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2009, 06:09:59 pm »
It would be an interesting idea to have 2 consoles side by side, such as with an Xbox and the Xlink cable.  However, again, I'm looking to restore it to it's original state.

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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2009, 06:35:28 pm »
man that old CP is freaking pimp 

I love those button labels, it'd be great to add some more buttons that said like BIFF >>>, BOOM >>>>, POW>>>

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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2009, 06:55:25 pm »
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2009, 09:17:55 pm »
haha yeah!  I'd hook up 2 xboxes in this thing.  I believe *all* the xbox based x-port emulators support netplay, so you can get a nice multiplayer game of sonic and knuckles going lol.  More likely you'd be playing mk2, bomberman etc.  You could also bring some xbox controller ports out so you could plug those in and play halo 2 / crimson skies etc head to head. 

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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2009, 10:37:26 pm »
Dont forget that one monitor is down below and is projected onto a mirror.  So you would have to wire out an inverted image on whatever secondary device you put in.  So yeah more trouble than its worth considering he simply wants to keep it as an 6 player X-men

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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2009, 11:28:08 pm »
I wouldn't think twice about MAMEing that beast. I am actually surprised that so many on a forum like this are against it. But I'm not for keeping things original just for the sake of it. If I had an old car I'd put a new more powerful engine in it and new tires and better suspension. Not keep it with inferior tires engine and poor handling. I would not want a cab with one game taking up a huge amount of space in my home. But that is just me.

MAME that sucker. Use one big TV for a monitor. Congrats on the find!

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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2009, 03:56:11 am »
I wouldn't think twice about MAMEing that beast. I am actually surprised that so many on a forum like this are against it. But I'm not for keeping things original just for the sake of it. If I had an old car I'd put a new more powerful engine in it and new tires and better suspension. Not keep it with inferior tires engine and poor handling. I would not want a cab with one game taking up a huge amount of space in my home. But that is just me.

MAME that sucker. Use one big TV for a monitor. Congrats on the find!

The idea is to preserve unique cabinets so the original look and feel of the game remains in-tact as it's creators intended it. Especially since over time they get rarer and rarer. I definitely respect the notion of preservation, but I'll leave that up to the museums  >:D

I'm 29 and come from a generation that grew up with Street Fighter II and look-a-like dynamo cabinets and conversions. I was socially trained not to give much attention to what the cabinet looked like... just what game was running on it. About the only cabinet I ever fell in love with as a kid were the showcase cabinets, and those were non-game specific. I also have been falling in love with candy cabs as an adult, and those are also non-game specific. It'll probably always be Mame for me.

...alright, alright I have to admit... if I ever restore any game it'd be a Dragon's Lair II cab.

Delusional, please keep us posted and share a picture or two of your new baby when you get it moved in!  :cheers:

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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2009, 09:44:50 am »
My suggestion (pretty bad exposed also)  was only to play the game until it can be restored with the original replacement parts, to mame a generic/knokoff cabnet is Ok,  doing that  (in a way that doesn't allow you to revert back to the original status)  on a rare specimen like this one would be a crime against the preservation idea that is behind mame concept itself.
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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2009, 07:01:54 pm »
Dont forget that one monitor is down below and is projected onto a mirror.  So you would have to wire out an inverted image on whatever secondary device you put in.  So yeah more trouble than its worth considering he simply wants to keep it as an 6 player X-men
I actually looked into this... Yes, you would have to wire out an inverted image, since (for whatever reason) MAME does not invert the image.  (Select MAME games do... I could have sworn I saw the option somewhere, but I can't remember which game it was?).

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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2009, 07:09:02 pm »
OK,

Here are some photos.  I've only moved half of the cabinet in (the control panel).  I am going to pick up the rest of (the monitors in the second chunk) next week.  Although I did take a couple of pics of the monitors at the guys place (covered with tarp underneath a covered porch, so it was limited).

The control panel is so huge that when it opens up it requires a metal rod (just like a car) to hold it up.  The coin mechs are intact (Happ 3 player coin doors on each side).

The cabinet came apart in 3 chunks.  Control Panel, Monitors and the monitor on the back has a box which come off with bolts.

Edit: I also noticed that there was a painted piece of tape on the left side of the control panel.  I peeled off the tape and realized that they painted over the side art.  Probably not worth trying to save it, since they must have painted it for a reason.  Also on the front art, it looks as if there are 2 layers of the side art.  It was probably re-ordered and stuck over the original messed up art.

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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2009, 07:13:33 pm »
More pics of the monitor box on the back and the inside of the cabinet.

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« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2009, 07:17:22 pm »
Pretty cool and very colossal, though I would have imagined the rear of the control panel box to have been solid to add strength and resist vandalism.

A lick of paint, some replacement artwork and a few switches here and there should see it back in a playable and presentable state.

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Re: Obtained an X-Men 6 Player cab!
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2009, 07:21:54 pm »
I can't wait until the weather improves so that I can get started.  In the meantime, I need to get it to a playable state, as only the montiors turn on but the game does not fire up.  I'm guessing it's some loose wires/fuses somewhere or the PSU.  The PCB looks brand spanking new (it's very clean as seen in the pics), so I doubt it's defective.

But I feel I am doing a great service to the arcade community by restoring it.  :)  I would not have it any other way.

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Re: Obtained an X-Men 6 Player cab!
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2009, 12:33:32 am »
Awesome pics Delusional. That's huuuuuge >_< Thanks for sharing and keep us posted on how it goes. Your videos on arcades have helped me a ton in the past and I'm sure this will give the community more material on how to do it right  :applaud:

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Re: Obtained an X-Men 6 Player cab!
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2009, 09:50:22 am »
Wow, look at the size of that coffin, er control panel. 

Great find and a great project.  I am sure you will do it justice. 

I have a couple of questions, not really familiar with the game or the cabinet.  Why is one of the monitors mounted down below and projected onto a mirror?  I am sure there is plenty of room in there to have two monitors normally mounted.  Also with the two outside players I guess #1 and #6, are their joysticks mounted so that towards the monitor is up?  At such an extreme angle I would think that would be difficult.


  
 

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