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Light gun market research question.
DJ_Izumi:
--- Quote from: Organic Jerk on April 14, 2009, 03:13:01 pm ---And again, thats only if we *couldn't* just replicate the other mold... I don't know what copyright situations are with these molds. I'm just saying if we had to actually work with a brand new mold design.
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I don't think it'd be difficult for any graphic designer to come up with a design that 'fits' the arcade theme of looking like a gun but not specificly being any gun. Most arcade guns I can think of arn't super rich in physical details but are more generic.
shmokes:
--- Quote from: Shoegazer on April 03, 2009, 12:03:20 am ---
Andy's/Ultimarc's products (and service) have never failed to disappoint,
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:laugh2: That's not very nice!
mayhem:
Well since my LCD light guns have never seemed to work properly i went and bought a Wii controller and light bar and extras my god it cost a small fortune and to my disbelief the Blue tooth stacks crash out on windows xp 64 all the time ......
But under windows XP seem oky accept my blue tooth dongle is pants and losses connection all the time.
So was thinking along the lines of the LCD light gun but with better guns / single light bar or LEDS and Much better tracking drivers and all so throw in you sensors for movement and you would have the best ever light gun full stop .... ;) .......
Sort of a cross between WII / LCD Light guns and namco body ... oh and none of that crappy kick back effect from LCD light gun it sucks ...
DJ_Izumi:
--- Quote from: mayhem on April 16, 2009, 09:33:30 pm ---Well since my LCD light guns have never seemed to work properly i went and bought a Wii controller and light bar and extras my god it cost a small fortune and to my disbelief the Blue tooth stacks crash out on windows xp 64 all the time ......
But under windows XP seem oky accept my blue tooth dongle is pants and losses connection all the time.
So was thinking along the lines of the LCD light gun but with better guns / single light bar or LEDS and Much better tracking drivers and all so throw in you sensors for movement and you would have the best ever light gun full stop .... ;) .......
Sort of a cross between WII / LCD Light guns and namco body ... oh and none of that crappy kick back effect from LCD light gun it sucks ...
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Well, a WiiMote IS an LCD Light Gun, just in a funny shape. But both are using the same core technology of tracking two points of IR light and doing the math to use them as a basis for understanding what it's pointing at. But this technology of course has issues. Firstly, the gun can't see the the markers from certian angles or distances. From too far away the IR signal meshes in with other sources in the room, too close and the angle between the gun and the market might be too sharp for it to sense. An IR marker design won't let you put the barrel right up to the screen and have it detect where you're pointing at for example.
This is the issue, the technology behind a cathode ray timing gun is simple and highly effective but CRT displays are growing more and more obsolete. Using IR or some other marker technology is simply necessary, dispite some of the issues.
severdhed:
i'd be very happy if the wiimote would pair up automatically and work as a mame lightgun, but that just doesnt seem to work too well. the problem with the wii's approach to the IR tracking, is that it is not remotely accurate on a big screen. if you are on a small screen, it isnt that noticeable..but when i am playing games on my 102" projection screen...i am not pointing the wiimote anywhere near where the crosshair shows up. my wii sensor bar sits below my screen...when i aim at stuff near the bottom of the screen, it is pretty good...but for stuff at teh top of the screen, i have to aim somewhere slightly below center.
having two led bars like the topgun should solve those kinds of problems, however according to teh EMS tech support, their guns wont work on a screen that big, unless you mount the bars in the middle of the screen...which is just unacceptable. i'm sure i'm in the minority in wanting good lightguns that would work on a screen that large, but it would be nice.
but projection screens aside, i really hope that whatever Andy is workign on, he makes it compatible with LCD monitors. CRTs are becoming increasingly difficult to come by. also, the local pizza place got some new arcade games in the other day, one of which is a time crisis 2 unit...the pedal was almost broken, but still functional. It was alot of fun playing with a real arcade gun....and i have to say those namco guns are really slick looking. it made me go home and hook up my ps2 to the 26" tv and play some time crisis 3...now i'm really wanting a gun cabinet again.
i know it is just "market research" at this point, but here is what i am hoping for:
1. LCD monitor support
2. guns that are either comparable to or better than the guncon 2 controllers..preferably in blue...and yellow :)
3. flexible mounting options for IR Led bars or whetever it is they will use.
4. not to cost an arm and a leg.
i know ultimarc makes great products, and i am willing to pay for great products...as long as they are within reason.
i think i speak for alot of us when i say "we're counting on you Andy"
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