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Broken:
thanks kev but i cant see the links. will anything silicon based be good?
Kevin Mullins:
Weird.... I even tried those links before I posted them. They were just directly to the picture instead of the full page.
 :dunno
Try these two links- they are kinda what I had in mind of trying. Of course something similar from other stores might work and someone else may have a better suggestion.

Small tube: Small tube black silicone

Big tube: Big caulking style tube

Oh, and just a side note when trying to spread this stuff out is to use a slightly wet finger, brush, or whatever applicator of some kind. This helps keep it from sticking to whatever you use to spread it with. Experiment just a little before diving into slapping it on a grommet would be a good idea, just to get a feel for it.
u_rebelscum:
These are often called grommets (most common name here), though atari called them bellows.  Neither are the best terms (look up the definitions), and IIRC some (most?) were actually vibration isolation mounts used for a very different purpose. 

There were a few different joysticks that had them, and different models of grommets were used by the different brands.  I'm not sure about hardening them, but GGG has replacements for happs 49-way sticks.  Sometimes you can find wico NOS grommets (ponyboy had 'em for a while, but looks like he's busy with RealLife ATM.).  A couple basic "what is grommet?" threads: link 1, link 2.

What model joystick are you trying to refurbish/repair?
Kevin Mullins:
You're right.... I forget that they use the term "bellows" for some of these as well.
The ones I have been visualizing are like the ones for Battlezone and such like these:
http://www.wizzesworkshop.com/cart/product.asp?intProdID=19
And I was thinking that by applying a layer of silicone in the shallow "flexible" area might work to stiffen or revive a torn one.
Broken:

--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on December 01, 2008, 05:32:23 pm ---These are often called grommets (most common name here), though atari called them bellows.  Neither are the best terms (look up the definitions), and IIRC some (most?) were actually vibration isolation mounts used for a very different purpose. 

There were a few different joysticks that had them, and different models of grommets were used by the different brands.  I'm not sure about hardening them, but GGG has replacements for happs 49-way sticks.  Sometimes you can find wico NOS grommets (ponyboy had 'em for a while, but looks like he's busy with RealLife ATM.).  A couple basic "what is grommet?" threads: link 1, link 2.

What model joystick are you trying to refurbish/repair?

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its a suzo... the old school suzos.

http://www.highway.net.au/parts/joysticks/4235_1.html
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