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Light gun compatibility
wbassett:
The TopGun is hit and miss. Some people have no problems and love them, other have majo problems and hate them. There are very few that are in the middle.
If you're lucky and get them working, the first version works 'okay'. I hear some say the TopGun II fixed all the problems with the first version, but others have still had some problems.
With that said, when they work they work okay to good. I personally think they have some accuracy and distance issues, but compared to other guns they are less expensive.
I'm waiting for some feedback on the wireless RF TopGuns. Those if reliable have some real potential for making custom guns.
aljupy:
--- Quote from: wbassett on November 27, 2008, 11:31:42 pm ---I'm waiting for some feedback on the wireless RF TopGuns. Those if reliable have some real potential for making custom guns.
--- End quote ---
Hello:
I had two sets of "RF Topgun" I´m going to resume here my personal thinks
This time I´ll not do any detailed review on forums, sorry friends
Pros:
-Better design
-Touch of the Buttons are improved (Big and Soft buttons, and C button on the bottom is cool)
- D-pad is also better
Cons:
-Gunsight is a little "strange"
-Loss of "Extra fetures" (Laser pointer, debug mode, XBOX mode..etc..etc..)
-I need slighty more distance (Maybe half meter) with "Rf topgun" than my old Topgun
-Playstation2 is still buggy on some games (For example on "Crisis Zone" Pal version)
- "A" and "B" Buttons are too far away for some fingers. So..Dino Stalker (Dino crisis: Gun survivor from Playstation2) will be imposible to play for someone)
-Tracking is slighty better on my old Topgun1.
I measured "Rf Topgun" with an application program:
Old "LCD TOP GUN" updates around 60 times in a second
"Rf Topgun" just updates around 40/45 times in a second.
I think, this is the main reason why I found the "strange bad tracking" of the cursor. 45 updates in a second is pretty bad for a gamer.
I like to save hostages in lightgun games ;D
The lag annoys me, I´m lucky I bought it in a local store. I can approve some points, but not lag.
I think that in a Versus...... my Old "topgun-1" wins. I asked inmedeatly for a refund on the local shop.
Best Regards.
Loafmeister:
--- Quote from: jeffremiller on November 26, 2008, 08:25:39 pm ---I bought two Topguns... I never managed to even get one to work correctly.
If anyone wants one, never used in the box and a used spare... PM me with an offer.
I have given up on them.
--- End quote ---
PM sent jeffremiller
PsychoAU:
PM sent jeffremiller
wbassett:
--- Quote from: aljupy on November 28, 2008, 07:22:46 am ---
--- Quote from: wbassett on November 27, 2008, 11:31:42 pm ---I'm waiting for some feedback on the wireless RF TopGuns. Those if reliable have some real potential for making custom guns.
--- End quote ---
Hello:
I had two sets of "RF Topgun" I´m going to resume here my personal thinks
This time I´ll not do any detailed review on forums, sorry friends
Pros:
-Better design
-Touch of the Buttons are improved (Big and Soft buttons, and C button on the bottom is cool)
- D-pad is also better
Cons:
-Gunsight is a little "strange"
-Loss of "Extra fetures" (Laser pointer, debug mode, XBOX mode..etc..etc..)
-I need slighty more distance (Maybe half meter) with "Rf topgun" than my old Topgun
-Playstation2 is still buggy on some games (For example on "Crisis Zone" Pal version)
- "A" and "B" Buttons are too far away for some fingers. So..Dino Stalker (Dino crisis: Gun survivor from Playstation2) will be imposible to play for someone)
-Tracking is slighty better on my old Topgun1.
I measured "Rf Topgun" with an application program:
Old "LCD TOP GUN" updates around 60 times in a second
"Rf Topgun" just updates around 40/45 times in a second.
I think, this is the main reason why I found the "strange bad tracking" of the cursor. 45 updates in a second is pretty bad for a gamer.
I like to save hostages in lightgun games ;D
The lag annoys me, I´m lucky I bought it in a local store. I can approve some points, but not lag.
I think that in a Versus...... my Old "topgun-1" wins. I asked inmedeatly for a refund on the local shop.
Best Regards.
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That's a bit depressing. I was hoping they'd get this right.
The gun itself is an XBox gun that they modded. So that's why the same features aren't there that the TopGun has. Which that gun was a mod of a PS2 gun which already had the laser, recoil and other features. So it makes sense that this new gun doesn't have those features because they don't really make their own guns, rather modify others.
Accuracy is a big concern of mine. Blob shooting is okay in some games, but others do require precise tracking. It's those games that I found issues with my TopGun experience.
Hopefully they will be quicker at getting a software update out there that improves the accuracy and distance than they did with the first TopGun. I really really want to like their products and if they can get the wireless tech working I have plans for some pretty cool mods. If they can't, well then I will be going with Dave's Sonic design. I wish his was wireless, but I can live with that if the performance is top notch.
Let me ask this... Is there any type of advanced calibration with the RF TopGuns that may help? I know the TopGun II improved on that some, and although I only have a first gen TopGun myself, I found that putting the sensor bars above and below the screen instead of to the right and left of the screen improved not only my accuracy but also the distance I need to stand back. Have you tried that?
The update time though seems like it will cause lag, and that's also one of my complaints about the original Topgun... the cursor lag. It really matters in games like Police Trainer when you get to the upper levels. The beginning levels are fine with the lag, but when things start to get really fast and you need precise aiming, that's when it start's to fall apart... at least in my personal experience.
Again, for games where you are just 'blob shooting' the baddies and hitting any part of their body registers either a kill or hit, there are no problems. It's only when you need to shoot like Mel Gibson in Leathal Weapon is when it matters. Me? I'm ex-military so I like and want precision. I understand this isn't the same as going to the range and firing live rounds, but why shouldn't it be? EMS is a leader in the light gun community, and even though they do recycle and remod other company's guns- being the leader they really should put out a top notched finished product in my opinion.
I am still waiting for something that I can do my custom gun mods with! Hopefully EMS will give you some sort of solution to the problems you noted, and hopefully it won't take two years this time! ;)
If not, I won't be waiting two years, I'll be going with Dave's solution.
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