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Mikezilla:
Fast food isnt expensive, are you kidding? How many FF places can you think of that dont have dollar menus? A lot of times when people are really poor, they have to rely on what types of foods the food banks are giving out, and not all of it is healthy and nutritional. Im not trying to defend fat or poor people, Im just saying that sometimes when you dont have the same options as other people, its hard to eat healthy. I dont care what you say, eating healthy is not cheap.

Hell, I was fat, I knew what made me fat, not being active, and my large portions. Its different for people. A lot of times overweight people have issues that lead up to them being fat in the first place. I was just lazy.  :lol But I decided that I didnt want to be fat anymore, it wasnt getting me anywhere, so I changed my life. Got more active, started lifting, cut the crap out of my diet, and bam. Great shape.

Still havent done p90x though. I got the DVD's but I still havent done it. A friend of mine calls one of the moves the "puke fountain". Kind of hesitant to start...  :(

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: Mikezilla on July 25, 2011, 12:42:30 pm --- I dont care what you say, eating healthy is not cheap.

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Eating yummy enjoyable healthy foods is not cheap.  Eating easy to prepare healthy foods is not cheap.  There is nothing expensive about stuff like tuna, peanut butter, and low grade meats.  They have the same protein and fat content as better tasting or premade healthy foods.  The difference is that they don't taste as good or take more effort to prepare.  Taking one chicken and preparing several meals from it is cheap.  One person can eat for a whole week on one chicken and a bag of potatoes.  A family of four can eat for 2-3 days that way.  All of those options are a lot less expensive than the dollar menu at McDonald's and none of them will make you fat even if you tried.

pimballjim was dead on.  Most people here don't really know what truly poor means.

Mikezilla:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 25, 2011, 01:22:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mikezilla on July 25, 2011, 12:42:30 pm --- I dont care what you say, eating healthy is not cheap.

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Eating yummy enjoyable healthy foods is not cheap.  Eating easy to prepare healthy foods is not cheap.  There is nothing expensive about stuff like tuna, peanut butter, and low grade meats.  They have the same protein and fat content as better tasting or premade healthy foods.  The difference is that they don't taste as good or take more effort to prepare.  Taking one chicken and preparing several meals from it is cheap.  One person can eat for a whole week on one chicken and a bag of potatoes.  A family of four can eat for 2-3 days that way.  All of those options are a lot less expensive than the dollar menu at McDonald's and none of them will make you fat even if you tried.

pimballjim was dead on.  Most people here don't really know what truly poor means.

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You have to keep in mind though, a lot of poor people have large families. I see what youre saying, and I understand, and youre right, i have never been truly THAT poor to where I would be hungry at night. My mom always made sure that didnt happen. Keep in mind the levels of poverty vary from state to state. Whats poor is in San Diego, might not be the same as the poor in San Antonio, or somewhere in the south.

I also wanted to clarify that I wasnt trying to sound like a jerk or anything when I said "I dont care what you say..."  :cheers:

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: Mikezilla on July 25, 2011, 03:17:54 pm ---You have to keep in mind though, a lot of poor people have large families.
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Having to feed more people doesn't make the obesity causing foods less expensive per person or per meal.  If you can afford to feed 6 people off the Dollar Menu for one meal you could have fed them better food all day for the same price.  It just would have taken more work and that's where the problem lies.  It's easier to feed them the cheap garbage but it sure isn't less expensive.  It's obvious there is a segment of the population that is poor and obese.  What I don't agree with is that one causes the other with no options available.  What it probably means is that our lower class has an income well above the lower class in other parts of the world.



--- Quote ---I also wanted to clarify that I wasnt trying to sound like a jerk or anything when I said "I dont care what you say..."  :cheers:
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No worries.

Donkbaca:
I think you are both sorta right. It is dirt cheap to eat dollar menu fast food items.  But CTower is right that you can eat healthy and cheap too, it just requires more work - canned vegetables are usually pretty cheap.  Its the healthy stuff that we want to eat - fresh produce, fresh, lean, quality meat - that is expensive.

I also think a factor is time.  I think a lot of poor people unfairly get characterized as lazy, but a lot of them work really hard for very little, and they don't have time/ access to health clubs or the time to devote a half hour a day to exercise.  Not to mention that most of them live in areas where it isn't safe/desirable to go and exercise outdoors for free.

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