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shmokes:
I've used a few and all have worked fine. I can't say which particular ones I've used, but it's probably pretty safe to just go by the Amazon rating.
Vigo:
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Yeah but they are kinda crazy what they call "over weight".
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See, I don't think you're really arguing this. That would be idiotic. The next time you go to a movie theater get there early and watch as people come into the theater. Most Americans are visibly overweight. Anyway, even if only a third were, that would be a serious problem. We eat poorly here. To seriously argue differently would be idiotic.
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There are no doubt fat people all over, but the statistics are still skewed. The BMI system is what they use to determine obesity, but it doesn't calculate body density into the equation. Some of the most athletic and fit people out there are statistically obese.
shmokes:
What you are referring to are statistical outliers. Few athletes actually fit that description. That's just like hardcore lifters and NFL linebackers.
They don't substantially degrade the statistic, as is obvious by just, like, looking around. Anyway, the outliers are likely controlled for in the statistic, since it would be super easy to do so. Either way, though, our country is fat, whether it's 60% like the stats say, or even half that.
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: Vigo on July 14, 2011, 03:41:32 pm ---Some of the most athletic and fit people out there are statistically obese.
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Athletic and fit are relative terms.
Chris Farley could be considered athletic and fit, but he was statistically and truly obese.
Vigo:
--- Quote from: shmokes on July 14, 2011, 03:55:19 pm ---What you are referring to are statistical outliers. Few athletes actually fit that description. That's just like hardcore lifters and NFL linebackers.
They don't substantially degrade the statistic, as is obvious by just, like, looking around. Anyway, the outliers are likely controlled for in the statistic, since it would be super easy to do so. Either way, though, our country is fat, whether it's 60% like the stats say, or even half that.
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Not really outliers in the least, just using athletes as an example. Take your stereotypical trucker build kind of guy. He may be a bulky and even somewhat overweight, but definitely not obese. Taking that to the BMI calculator and he will probably show up as phase 2 severe obesity, in the same category as the fat woman you see in the walmart fat people scooter.
And yeah, I'm not gonna deny that there is a fat problem in the country.
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on July 14, 2011, 04:13:48 pm ---Athletic and fit are relative terms.
Chris Farley could be considered athletic and fit, but he was statistically and truly obese.
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Not a relative term, but a term with no standardization. A more accurate way to put it is that there are people with 2-15% body fat, yet fall under the overweight and obese categories. When I was a in athletics, my body fat was measuring in between 15-18%, yet I was considered overweight according to my BMI.
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