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shateredsoul1979:
Yeah I agree, a lot of people are obese due to income. I went to Guatemala for a conference a summer ago for 2 weeks. We ate 5 times a day, and boy was I stuffed. We even went out to drink and eat again at night sometimes... and I lost weight! I hardly walked, we didn't have any soda but aguas frescas (juices made using water, fruit, and a sugar cane concentrate called pilloncillo , see a pic http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/Images/piloncillo-300.jpg ). The tortillas were actually made from freshly ground corn (in the USA and even Mexico most people use something called Mazeca, a processed white flour). I have no idea how I lost weight!

My dad also grew up in a rural area of Mexico where the diet consisted of squash, beans, rice, corn, yams, and lots of fruit. If you wanted meat you had to kill an animal or go to another nearby town about 30 mins away in car, there was no local meat markets, so they eat meat maybe once a week (and more chicken, cows and pigs were killed on special occasions or celebrations). He also mentions how when he was a kid everything was organic (when complaining about organic food prices). Unfortunately now they do use hormone even in rural areas, even on small farms. Sometimes I do gross my self out when I think about the meat we buy. If you think about it, meat starts rotting as soon as you kill the animal. So, I sometimes wonder, how much has this meat rotted in the time it took to get to the grocery store.. or get processed into whatever it is I'm buying.

Anyways, I'm paying 125 a month for crossfit, my most expensive bill next to my car payment, but I figure it's worth it for my health. Diabetes runs in my fam and so does high cholosterol. Yeah, you can go a few times then do it at home, but I don't have a group of guys interested enough to do that, and the group aspect of crossfit helps. I do disagree with some of what they teach though. For example, they usually discourage long runs/swims/bikes. I think a weekly long run, bike, or swim can be beneficial.

btw, does anyone know a good way to start building up strength for a pull up? I don't really like the swing kip pullup


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--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 14, 2011, 10:13:11 am ---
Ah, yes, the shmokes "to debate me would be crazy/idiotic/insane/ridiculous" point.  Always worth a laugh.   :laugh2:


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Over half of Americans are overweight, and about a third are full-on obese.  So yeah, to "argue that there aren't fundamental problems with our society's diet . . . would be idiotic."  Of course, you're not arguing that.  You're just taking a totally unwarranted swipe at me over a statement that you agree with 100%.  Which is also sort of idiotic.

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Yeah but they are kinda crazy what they call "over weight". Im 6'3 and Im about 220 pounds. The stupid doctor says I should be at 190-200. I would look like a skeleton dipped in wax. Screw that. You have to take into the account that people dont necessarily mean to be obese, but parts of the country are too poor to eat healthy, and were never educated on it. But I do think Chads comment is funny.  :lol

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shmokes:

--- Quote from: Mikezilla on July 14, 2011, 12:43:06 pm ---
Yeah but they are kinda crazy what they call "over weight".


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See, I don't think you're really arguing this.  That would be idiotic.  The next time you go to a movie theater get there early and watch as people come into the theater.  Most Americans are visibly overweight.  Anyway, even if only a third were, that would be a serious problem.  We eat poorly here.  To seriously argue differently would be idiotic.

shmokes:
The p90x way of building strength for pull ups is pull ups.  But put a chair or stool on the floor in front of you that you can put your toe on for an assist.  The further away the chair is, the less an assist your foot can give.  So you can keep moving the chair further until you can pull up without it.  Or keep it there, but unused, for the first however many reps you can do and then use the chair to push out a couple extra cheat reps to build more strength.

Dartful Dodger:
Shmokes is on a diet and it's working for him and I appreciate him sharing his secret to success with us.

You naysayers are just bitter fat slobs and I know that "common sense" dieting  and "eating right is easy" gibberish isn't helping you (or me) in the least.

On that note it's time for me to take off for lunch. Since I didn't have time to make a lunch this morning I'm heading off to McDonalds.

I'll start the Warrior Diet next week.   ;)

shateredsoul1979:

--- Quote from: shmokes on July 14, 2011, 01:47:44 pm ---The p90x way of building strength for pull ups is pull ups.  But put a chair or stool on the floor in front of you that you can put your toe on for an assist.  The further away the chair is, the less an assist your foot can give.  So you can keep moving the chair further until you can pull up without it.  Or keep it there, but unused, for the first however many reps you can do and then use the chair to push out a couple extra cheat reps to build more strength.

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Can someone recommend a good doorway pullup bar? Extra credit if it's on Amazon.com so I can order it with prime.

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