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DaveMMR:


--- Quote from: loadman on October 13, 2008, 06:47:40 pm ---Dude, You can use whatever OS / FE combo that makes you happy but I find it hard to swallow your argument that "Second is that if we like it or not vista is the future for Mame" . Dude that is just plain wrong I think.

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Heh.  If it weren't for the better USB support of XP, I'd use 98SE for the MAME cab. 

Bender:


--- Quote from: loadman on October 13, 2008, 06:47:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bender on October 13, 2008, 09:38:27 am ---exactly the glitches I'm seeing in both Mala And Maximus

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Thanks I will have a look  ;)


--- Quote ---there are two reasons for me wanting to go with vista, first and most importantly is the speed factor, vista 64 is supposed to be like 30% faster. Second is that if we like it or not vista is the future for Mame and everything else PC so if I can make it workable might as well get used to it now
having said all that if I can't make it workable I'll definitely "upgrade" to XP
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Not sure I can relate to your logic here.

Vista is a 'dud' OS  IMHO. My bet is on the next version.  Win98SE and WinXP are the only half decent versions of windows I have used.  ME was a shocker. 2000 was OK.....ish.

I can understand some wanting the latest OS on the desktop.

"Vista is the future for mame"??  Mame needs Vista  ???

With a cab isn't the whole point is you hide the OS.

 So ideally you want the fastest and leanest OS that will work on your cab's PC. That is why stripped down versions of XP are made.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=59373.0

Dude, You can use whatever OS / FE combo that makes you happy but I find it hard to swallow your argument that "Second is that if we like it or not vista is the future for Mame" . Dude that is just plain wrong I think.

I feel better now  ;D

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thanks for the info loadman

I know next to nothing about PCs
I do all my work on Macs and I love OSX
but...I'm making an arcade cab and all the good software is written for PCs
and I'm just trying to figure to the best way to do that

as far as speed I'm just going by something I read on here forums here said that an optimized vista64 with 4+ gigs of ram was as fast as you were gonna get
I have no clue if that is true or not

I certainly don't need a fancy OS, I agree the whole point is to make it invisible

as far as Mame needing vista, I certainly don't think I said that, all I meant was that it seems like development will move further and further toward the predominate operating system regardless of how good it is.

Do you know anybody running mac OS9 or earlier?
I couldn't even get a highend laptop with XP on it, Believe me I tried

so in short

how do I install tiny XP onto my Vista laptop? :)


loadman:


--- Quote from: Bender on October 13, 2008, 09:09:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: loadman on October 13, 2008, 06:47:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bender on October 13, 2008, 09:38:27 am ---exactly the glitches I'm seeing in both Mala And Maximus

--- End quote ---
Thanks I will have a look  ;)


--- Quote ---there are two reasons for me wanting to go with vista, first and most importantly is the speed factor, vista 64 is supposed to be like 30% faster. Second is that if we like it or not vista is the future for Mame and everything else PC so if I can make it workable might as well get used to it now
having said all that if I can't make it workable I'll definitely "upgrade" to XP
--- End quote ---

Not sure I can relate to your logic here.

Vista is a 'dud' OS  IMHO. My bet is on the next version.  Win98SE and WinXP are the only half decent versions of windows I have used.  ME was a shocker. 2000 was OK.....ish.

I can understand some wanting the latest OS on the desktop.

"Vista is the future for mame"??  Mame needs Vista  ???

With a cab isn't the whole point is you hide the OS.

 So ideally you want the fastest and leanest OS that will work on your cab's PC. That is why stripped down versions of XP are made.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=59373.0

Dude, You can use whatever OS / FE combo that makes you happy but I find it hard to swallow your argument that "Second is that if we like it or not vista is the future for Mame" . Dude that is just plain wrong I think.

I feel better now  ;D

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thanks for the info loadman
I know next to nothing about PCs
I do all my work on Macs and I love OSX
but...I'm making an arcade cab and all the good software is written for PCs
and I'm just trying to figure to the best way to do that

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I am a Mac man myself. I am on a MacBook Pro right now. But all the good stuff is written for PC's and is usally a better option as you don't need a fast PC to play the old 80's game (that I like). PS MaLa development is mostly done on this Mac (using Parallels to use WinXP).



--- Quote ---as far as speed I'm just going by something I read on here forums here said that an optimized vista64 with 4+ gigs of ram was as fast as you were gonna get
I have no clue if that is true or not
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Try XP64 if you want to use mame64


--- Quote ---Do you know anybody running mac OS9 or earlier?
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Nope.  Sorry


--- Quote ---/I couldn't even get a highend laptop with XP on it, Believe me I tried
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You can always blow vista away and put XP on it. Have you got a friend who could help you?


--- Quote ---how do I install tiny XP onto my Vista laptop? :)
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You might want to ask that in the thread I gave you a link to in the previous post. I would start with XP first to see if you can get all the drivers for XP for your laptop.



MrMojoZ:


--- Quote from: Bender on October 13, 2008, 09:38:27 am ---there are two reasons for me wanting to go with vista, first and most importantly is the speed factor, vista 64 is supposed to be like 30% faster.
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No, no it isn't. You use Vista64 when you want to take advantadge of large amounts of ram, 4GB or larger.  It is the best OS for this as it is better supported than XP64 ever was. But since MAME doesn't benefit from large amounts of ram there isn't much reason for you to use it on a cab.

Also, the "I don't know anything about Vista but I heard on the internet it was bad" people proably aren't real useful for info on the subject.

u_rebelscum:


--- Quote from: MrMojoZ on October 14, 2008, 11:47:42 am ---
--- Quote from: Bender on October 13, 2008, 09:38:27 am ---there are two reasons for me wanting to go with vista, first and most importantly is the speed factor, vista 64 is supposed to be like 30% faster.
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No, no it isn't. You use Vista64 when you want to take advantadge of large amounts of ram, 4GB or larger.  It is the best OS for this as it is better supported than XP64 ever was. But since MAME doesn't benefit from large amounts of ram there isn't much reason for you to use it on a cab.

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Er, 64 bit mame (mame64) runs about 20%-35% faster than 32 bit mame.  The person who hosts mameUI agrees, and so does taz here at this site.  And so does the man heading mameDev, Aaron Giles.

If you want the fastest mame, run mame64.  That takes a 64bit OS, either xp64 or vista64.  Vista64 has a far bigger driver base than xp64 (IOW runs on more hardware).  I've heard xp64 is faster than vista64, but I've also heard mame64 is just about the same on xp64 as vista64 (as long as the hardware runs on both ;)).


So get EITHER xp64 or vista64, and mame64, for the best performance, period.

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