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TPB:


--- Quote from: shmokes on October 13, 2008, 12:19:30 am ---
Well . . . both spinners in question spin just fine while pushed or pulled.  One just does it silently, while the other generates what I gather is a fairly innocuous noise while it spins.


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A "fairly innocuous noise" that's caused by friction.

Mind you, the friction shouldn't effect the gameplay.

The friction would be a problem IF it occurred when the spinner was being spun freely.  Fortunately for the Apache, this doesn't happen.

You can't "free spin" a spinner while simultaneously pushing or pulling it.  You can only turn it precisely, which is in effect using it as a dial or paddle, rather than a spinner.

TPB:


--- Quote from: erictrumpet on October 09, 2008, 05:25:27 pm ---
sustained pushing/pulling with simultaneous turning of the knob (an awkward two-handed maneuver)


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I can't picture why two hands would be required for ANY spinner operation.

Surely you should be able to push or pull the knob, while turning it, all with the same hand.  The Apache might generate some friction while doing this motion, but does it generate so much resistance that two hands are required ?

If this is the case, then the TT-HL appears to be the push-pull spinner of choice, and that's without even considering its higher resolution.

Visitor Q:
Higher resolution seems like a wash to me since the review on the Apache stated that all the games played fine with no adjustments.
RandyT:

--- Quote from: Visitor Q on October 14, 2008, 12:30:54 pm ---Higher resolution seems like a wash to me...

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There have been at least a couple of members here telling you just the opposite.  Again, "fine" is in the eye of the beholder.  If you happen to be an individual who is less demanding of accuracy, authenticity and playability, or are not interested in the analog potentiometer and/or high-resolution spinner controlled games (and this includes the driving variety) then you should be "fine" with a low-res spinner.

But there's definitely no "wash" here.  The difference is very real and quantifiable.  It affects gameplay and how severely, if at all, depends completely on the game being played.

RandyT

erictrumpet:

--- Quote from: TPB on October 14, 2008, 11:18:14 am ---You can't "free spin" a spinner while simultaneously pushing or pulling it.  You can only turn it precisely, which is in effect using it as a dial or paddle, rather than a spinner.

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This is what I meant when I said it takes two hands to do it. I guess my point was that pushing and turning, or pulling and turning, of course you can do that, but why would you want/need to? (Apparently to play Forgotten Worlds, I didn't know that till now. By the way I've been enjoying that game with my Apache since learning about this... :) ) So my point was just that free spinning with a simultaneous push or pull makes little sense.

I should be clearer from now on. I'd have it no other way. :)

Eric.

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