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FrizzleFried:
--- Quote from: Havok on September 25, 2008, 02:00:28 pm ---I just got an email from Davd - no new activity with the yoke. He will have to remanufacture the handles from a different alloy, and doesn't have time to dedicate to it right now. He says it will happen, but just not for a while.
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--- Quote ---04/09/07 - Handles are completed. They turned out quite nice! [emphasis mine] They're going off to powder coat with the new vendor. Frame component powder coat is still failing inspection, therefore alternate powder coat vendor has been chosen for this task and frame components will be forwarded to them. Keep fingers crossed! At this point in time, the completion estimate will not be met, obviously. Pre-orders are still open, however, anyone who has already pre-ordered is welcome to request a refund given that I cannot meet the original expected completion date.
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I am sorry, but 1+1 doesn't equal 3 in my world. I'm writing this project off as "vaperware"...
Havok:
It may be, but according to him - the current metal he used for the handles reacts poorly with the powdercoat process, and guarantees that they do not coat evenly.
Someone needs to start calling his other contracts, and have them drop him. Then he would have time to work on the yokes!
;D
Oh well, I can't see this not eventually coming out if he truly is as far ahead as his blog states. He's 99% done. I would think he only needs to come up with a new alloy, and use existing molds to make the new handles. He said he purchased his own powdercoating rig, so I can't see it taking that much more to complete. Hopefully sometime next year.
XtraSmiley:
Well I guess I'll throw my as... opinion in here as well. I've bought a couple things from Dave, spent a couple hundred dollars and although had a couple of week wait on one item that I shouldn't have, everything came in and I was VERY happy with it all. Dave contacted me directly about the problem item, sent out another item as soon as he could and all is well.
He also sent me several items over the years for free, including the shipping paid by him. Because of these reasons I mark him up as a good seller and a great guy.
If he's had your money for several months (or longer) on an item that is taking so long to come out, I wouldn't expect a refund immediately. He could be out of town, or maybe not even have access to the money right this second. If when you made the preorder, you got some sort of guarantee a about a refund instantly, it would be a different story.
This is a hobby, at times an expensive, and slow hobby. Really if that $200 is going to break you then don't spend it. If someone is making something and asks for preorders, it's up to you to get whatever details you need before sending the money. Stuff happens all the time to put hobbies off. This is the nature of the beast. If Dave is really supporting his family selling joystick parts to a few people on BYOAC, he's got bigger problems than you do...
Havok:
Yeah, I've already written off the $200 I gave him - but seeing the stuff he has put out, and the fact that eventually he does come through, I believe it will happen. Someday.
Besides, I have the dubious honor of being the oldest pre-order, so I get the first one!
Ummon:
I got my refund today. Sent it overnight and arrived this morning.
I wasn't worried about the money, either. I just decided I wanted to spend it on something else.