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MaximRecoil:


--- Quote from: ratzz on September 06, 2008, 03:32:44 pm ---How long to people have to wait for delivery, or in your case "If he ends up not refunding people who request it then it's a whole different story, but I've not heard that that is the case." -- where is the deadline? 1, 2, 3 or 5 years?

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Someone would first have to request a refund before they could be waiting for a refund. As such, there is no deadline until someone requests a refund, at which point the clock starts ticking; and I'd say he'd have a couple of weeks to do the refund before being labeled a bad trader.

So, who has requested a refund from him and not received it?

ratzz:


--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on September 06, 2008, 03:45:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: ratzz on September 06, 2008, 03:32:44 pm ---How long to people have to wait for delivery, or in your case "If he ends up not refunding people who request it then it's a whole different story, but I've not heard that that is the case." -- where is the deadline? 1, 2, 3 or 5 years?

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So, who has requested a refund from him and not received it?

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Who has received their yoke? You guys crack me up!

I'm not responding to this thread any more.

BTW, Saint, can you send me a copy of your fantastic book? I promise to deliver payment --- honest!

TheShanMan:

ratzz, from what I read in the past, he OFFERED a refund to anyone who didn't want to wait, and at least some people decided they'd rather wait than get a refund. So no, there is no deadline until someone requests the refund or he says that the project is dead.

And I'm sure Saint didn't offer to send you his book and let you pay at some later time, so that is totally unlike this situation. These people paid with the understanding that it was a pre-order, so it was completely willing on their part.

You don't have to like David's methods, his products, his business, or whatever, but that doesn't mean he's a bad guy. A lot of us (myself included) have gotten good stuff for free or for purchase from him, so at this point he seems to only have positive transactions. Of course, if he has disappeared and won't refund people their pre-order money, that's a different story.

MaximRecoil:


--- Quote from: ratzz on September 06, 2008, 03:52:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on September 06, 2008, 03:45:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: ratzz on September 06, 2008, 03:32:44 pm ---How long to people have to wait for delivery, or in your case "If he ends up not refunding people who request it then it's a whole different story, but I've not heard that that is the case." -- where is the deadline? 1, 2, 3 or 5 years?

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So, who has requested a refund from him and not received it?

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Who has received their yoke? You guys crack me up!
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What does that have to do with anything? If people are dissatisfied with the wait, they can request a refund; and so far, everyone who has requested a refund has gotten one. So what's the problem exactly?

CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: ratzz on September 06, 2008, 03:32:44 pm ---I'm sorry Saint, but someone who does things for  a hobby doesn't mean they can deliver what they promised - or that they are a good guy - quite the opposite. A hobbyist is much more unreliable to deliver than someone who does something to feed his kids, in my book.

You seem to have a unfathomable respect for this guy, and I can't see why.

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I'm not even sure what that first sentence was in response to -- I had to check to make sure that tommy wasn't posting because it had very little to do with what saint posted.

Like saint, I have respect for David and what he has done and been trying to do.

You seem to base your entire opinion of him on not delivering one product and are happy to ignore everything that he has done, which is more than most in this hobby, present company included.


--- Quote from: ratzz on September 06, 2008, 03:32:44 pm ---I'm sure you will again lock me out of this subject, or deny access to posting on it, but at least I can say "I TOLD YOU SO!"

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Wow -- I had to check a second time to make sure that it wasn't tommy posting.

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