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shardian:
That stoppage is in a grey area IMO. It looked like Couture slipped when he went down - it looked like he might have been going for a takedown attempt. He was making an effort to defend himself. How the ---fudgesicle--- do you actively defend 1" rabbit punches from hell?  :laugh2:

Another reason I think the ref might have stopped the fight was because the way Randy was trying to hold Lesnars arm, it made it appear that he might be tapping. In that case, better for the ref to error on the side of caution.

That was hardly a 'screw job'. If anything it still shows Lesnar has absolutley no idea what to do on the ground. He never attempted to gain any sort of positioning. It is subjectable how long a ref should allow a guy to be pummeled before making a judgement on his defensive position.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: shardian on November 17, 2008, 02:05:13 pm --- He never attempted to gain any sort of positioning.

--- End quote ---


Lesnar secure Couture's right arm instantly and had a bulk of his weight controlling the torso from the side.  There was no way Couture was getting out of there.  You have to remember that's not just some guy underneath, that's Randy Couture.  A complete mount isn't going to happen.

If Lesnar weren't being so conservative he would have finished Couture in the first round when he had him nearly out on his feet.  At one point Couture's legs were complete jello after a clean shot to the head.  Dude may not have all the technique of the other guys but in three fights against the best in the world nobody has even come close to hurting Lesnar yet and he has spent almost all of his ring time in total control of his opponent.

shardian:
I just replayed it - Lesnar never secured Couture's right arm. He got on his knees beside him, draped an arm over his waist, and started face humping him with his fist (I refuse to call them punches no matter how much they might hurt).

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: shardian on November 17, 2008, 02:23:20 pm ---I just replayed it - Lesnar never secured Couture's right arm. He got on his knees beside him, draped an arm over his waist, and started face humping him with his fist (I refuse to call them punches no matter how much they might hurt).

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Can't see it from here but I would swear he was kneeling on the right arm.  He did it to him up against the cage earlier in the round, too, but it was the left arm.  That is one of Matt Hughes' favorite tactics.

shardian:
Since rabbit punches are illegal, I don't see why Couture didn't roll away from him. Force that big bastard to go for a mount!

Like I said before, I've never had a 280lb animal pounding on my face, so I have no clue how much damage those short punches were doing to Couture. I think it is safe to say that since Couture didn't make a move, they must have hurt alot worse than they looked.

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