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Ummon:
All bands play faster live, though the Megadeth above is only slightly faster.

And I think Broderick was off at some points. For example, right at :46 he goes slightly too high. And of course there are some very slight rhythmic differences which vary over the solo. Which is fine, no reason he should do it exactly the same. Marty didn't.

Lars was never a great drummer, something I could tell as a teenager before I played any music, but he had some good stuff. Hell, there are guitar riffs on songs of both Lightning and Puppets that I thought were weak at the time. They seem to be little Hetfield signatures, and in later years I've thought of various alternatives.

Neil Pert can do still do his stuff. Gene Hoglan was ALWAYS a mountain of fat and yet he could do incredible paradidles (not sure that's spelled right) with his kick drums alone. Sean Reinert of Cynic is in his early 40s and he was easily up there with just about anyone in metal (except maybe in outright kick drum speed as compared to maybe Hoglan and especially that dude who was in Morbid Angel through the 90s who was a MACHINE) back on Death's Human.

Some samples of Reinert:

Lack of Comprehension from Human (unfortunately, the lack of fidelity of Youtube precludes hearing all of Reinert's tasty cymbal work) :



(Chuck was a neat guy, but a problem he had was he only knew one scale - the double harmonic - and nearly always ended on the 'tonic' of it, which gets old real quick.)


And, a few years later in Cynic (takes a bit to come in) :




And, for something really different (for guitar, even, though originally classical guitar) :

Ginsu Victim:
Neil Peart and Gene Hoglan FTW! Admittedly, I'm only familiar with Gene's Dethklok work. I'd love to hear more from him.

Lars has never impressed me, despite being a huge fan of Metallica in the 80s.

I've got one word for Lars:

Lombardo.

brandon:

--- Quote from: Ginsu Victim on September 17, 2008, 09:45:33 pm ---

Lombardo.

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SUCKS!

j/k:P

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtdWi_UdHZs[/youtube]

Xiaou2:

--- Quote from: brandon on September 17, 2008, 12:18:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ginsu Victim on September 17, 2008, 12:06:09 pm ---Nice vid. He nailed Marty's solo. Rust in Peace is still one of my favorite metal albums ever.

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look up Chris Broderick on youtube.. The guy is ridiculous!  I love Marty Friedman but from what I hear he was the "Lars" of Megadeth..  He was partly to blame for the more pop sounding Megadeth stuff after Cryptic Writtings... Thank God Dave went back to his roots of System has Failed and United Abominations... I really would like to see Metallica do that but I don't think it will ever happen.  My Hetfield should do like Mustaine and just fire everybody ;)

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 That doesnt make any sense at all.

 Lars was never anything special as fas as drumming goes.   Justice was just about the
only decent work... and that was pieced together.

 As for Marty, his stuff is top notch.   Ive even heard some of his Solo career stuff,
and its still amazing.  Not many are in his league.   

 Chris may have let out some decent playing... however...  How good is he at making
ORIGINAL Material???   That is what scares me.   There are a ton of talented PLAYERS,
but they suck bigtime when they try to create their own material.

 Martys solos were always excellent.   Where as others Ive heard, are good at one part
of the solo,  then the next part is like   "ehh" .

 
 Glen Drover had some nice stuff... however, he kept getting the older material all
wrong when playing live.   Ugg.

 
 
 And Actually,   Hetfield should be thrown out.   His voice Stinks now.   If you take out
him in the new stuff,  it might actually be bearable.


 As for the Death Metal... you can have it.   I cant stand the singers who merely
Scream monotone roars.   Lyrics?  If there was any,  you would never be able to
make them out.   Ruins the sound of the entire band.

brandon:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on September 18, 2008, 12:44:36 am ---
--- Quote from: brandon on September 17, 2008, 12:18:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ginsu Victim on September 17, 2008, 12:06:09 pm ---Nice vid. He nailed Marty's solo. Rust in Peace is still one of my favorite metal albums ever.

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look up Chris Broderick on youtube.. The guy is ridiculous!  I love Marty Friedman but from what I hear he was the "Lars" of Megadeth..  He was partly to blame for the more pop sounding Megadeth stuff after Cryptic Writtings... Thank God Dave went back to his roots of System has Failed and United Abominations... I really would like to see Metallica do that but I don't think it will ever happen.  My Hetfield should do like Mustaine and just fire everybody ;)

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 That doesnt make any sense at all.

 Lars was never anything special as fas as drumming goes.   Justice was just about the
only decent work... and that was pieced together.

 As for Marty, his stuff is top notch.   Ive even heard some of his Solo career stuff,
and its still amazing.  Not many are in his league.   

 Chris may have let out some decent playing... however...  How good is he at making
ORIGINAL Material???   That is what scares me.   There are a ton of talented PLAYERS,
but they suck bigtime when they try to create their own material.

 Martys solos were always excellent.   Where as others Ive heard, are good at one part
of the solo,  then the next part is like   "ehh" .

 
 Glen Drover had some nice stuff... however, he kept getting the older material all
wrong when playing live.   Ugg.


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Marty is excellent.. both technically and creatively.. I have some of his solo stuff as well.. both the "neo-classical" and the departures from that like "Scenes"   When I say he was the "Lars" of the band I mean as far as his influence on trying to change the way Megadeth sounded.  I heard that he was partly to blame for trying to push Megadeth in a different direction because he was "tired of playing metal".  This may or may not be true...BUT


--- Quote ---They began their world tour in support of Risk in September 1999, playing alongside Iron Maiden during the European leg. Three months into the tour, longtime guitarist Marty Friedman announced that he would be leaving the band,[5] citing musical differences. As Mustaine later explained: "I told (Marty) after Risk that we had to go back to our roots and play metal, and he quit".[
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  BTW, Risk sucked donkey nuts.. as a Megadeth fan I just pretend it never happened... Sort of like Indiana Jones 4 and Transformers... but that's a WHOLE other can of worms there ;)


As far as Chris Broderick goes.. I know what you mean.  Technically he is capable but will his style fit?  I've listen to some of his stuff from Nevermore and its nothing like Megadeth but I think Broderick is capable of adapting to different styles he seems very well rounds. 

Metal.. Jazz.. Classical.. or this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl3g8seYy74[/youtube]

(you'll have to cut and paste it.. It wouldn't embed..)

watch?v=zl3g8seYy74

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