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patrickl:
--- Quote from: Ken Layton on August 30, 2008, 11:32:19 am ---I still mostly use my 35mm Ricoh SLR camera. When I take a picture, I want it to last.
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That makes no sense whatsoever ??? If there is one huge problem with film then it's the degradation of the film. If you want to make sure your image will change color, contrast, saturation etc then shoot it on film ...
--- Quote from: Jdurg on August 30, 2008, 02:32:58 pm ---A lot of the reason for the lowering number of film based cameras is, as ark-ader pointed out, the fewer number of developers out there.
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It's the other way around. There are less developers because hardly anyone wants their films developed anymore.
I used a high end 35mm SLR for years. Indeed in the early days of digital there was no contest between the digital and film cameras. I had a Sony DSC S70. One of the first cameras to be available at a reasonable price at 3 megapixels. I used that a lot for holiday snaps. The quality was nowhere near that of the film camera.
When 6MP digital SLR cameras were coming out the tables changed though. Then there wasn't much difference in resolution anymore (true image resolution and not just the number of pixels they mention) between 35mm film and digital. The current crop of semi-pro 12MP digital SLR camera's blow 35mm film completely out of the water. Even the dynamic range (light intensity difference between darkest and lightest area in the image) is starting to get close. I don't think there is much difference anymore. But then I almost always shot on slide film so I was fine with less dynamic range.
I have a whole pile of film still in my cooler. I don't think I will ever use it. It's just too much work for nothing. If I want the nicely distorted colors of a certain brand/type of film then I can simply use a Photoshop filter. i can change ISO when I move to a location inside or outside without throwing away most of the film or shoot a whole lot of pictures just to fill the film.
I really don't see any advantage in using film anymore.
Ummon:
Processing film is one of the most toxic industrial processes still in existence. For this reason alone, it will disappear. However, soon enough there will be digital equivalents. Or, perhaps something organic-based, even. Of course, the coming generations will likely not need a physical print, either.
TOK:
Digital all the way. My wife is a photo fanatic and it would be completely unmanageable with film. She also has books done with family pics from places like Shutterfly that are really nice. She did an album of my parents by both scanning old pictures and adding new digital ones that ended up being fantastic.
The scary thing about digital is that they can be gone in an instant. Once we got over about 5 gig and they became unruly, I went with an offsite backup service. Our new Canon is 10megapixel and I think the images are 2meg a piece, so it got out of hand real fast when we started using that.
Ken Layton:
--- Quote from: Ummon on August 30, 2008, 07:15:54 pm ---Processing film is one of the most toxic industrial processes still in existence. For this reason alone, it will disappear.
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---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---!
I developed my own negatives and prints years ago in high school in the school photography club and school darkroom. Even for a while I did it at home and washed my prints in the bathtub.
The most toxic are the manufacturing of transistors and integrated circuits along with the acids to etch printed circuit boards. Now that's toxic!
Jdurg:
--- Quote from: Ken Layton on August 30, 2008, 09:57:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ummon on August 30, 2008, 07:15:54 pm ---Processing film is one of the most toxic industrial processes still in existence. For this reason alone, it will disappear.
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---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---!
I developed my own negatives and prints years ago in high school in the school photography club and school darkroom. Even for a while I did it at home and washed my prints in the bathtub.
The most toxic are the manufacturing of transistors and integrated circuits along with the acids to etch printed circuit boards. Now that's toxic!
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According to our government, EVERY chemical is toxic and if you use one you should go to jail.
For film developing, the actual developin isn't what is toxic. It's the cleaning chemicals needed. To clean the latent silver off of your materials, you need to dissolve it in nitric acid which is some pretty nasty stuff. Again, to anybody with a brain it's not toxic, it's not dangerous, it's not a threat to the well-being of others. In the eyes of the mentally retarded people who run our government, everything is dangerous. It's REALLY sad because a lot of people are afraid to get into the fields of chemistry and physics because they figure if they do, they'll be labelled as a terrorist or a drug dealer. Frankly, if our entire government were to die right now I'd be a very happy man. (And since I said that, in about ten minutes the FBI will visit me).
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