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Ummon:
I thought maybe you were talking about the quasi-death metal band.

SithMaster:
<cue imperial death march>


--- Quote from: ChadTower on August 28, 2008, 09:31:21 am ---The Stormtroopers aren't clones anymore by the time of the first trilogy.  Only Palpatine's personal guards and a few elite units.  The general army by that point was normal humans again because the clone troopers were too easy to manipulate and a lot of the cloning facilities at Kamino were lost.

It's in the books.   :)

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Let us not forget that the Emperor had a cloning facility at Mount Tantiss which Thrawn made use of later.  Clones cost more to make then conscripting the citizens making them less appealing especially since one of the trainers, Jango Fett, was killed.  Other Mandolorians could be found but by the time of the Empire they had a vast pool of potential soldiers to tap into.


--- Quote from: pinballjim on August 28, 2008, 10:06:25 am ---The books aren't canon.  Don't you read the disclaimer?



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--- Quote from: ChadTower on August 28, 2008, 10:10:57 am ---
--- Quote from: pinballjim on August 28, 2008, 10:06:25 am ---The books aren't canon.  Don't you read the disclaimer?

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It's fiction.  None of it is canon.

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Since its fiction wouldn't that automatically make it canon?

Most books are canon.  Certain things like the marvel comics are not really canon since they were before any real attempt at maintaining a continuity was started.  I'm going to say that anything published after Heir to the Empire would be canon (including Heir to the Empire).

Edit- Yes cut caption.  The real question is did you (assuming this isn't all a joke) apologize for losing the Falcon or mention some other star wars reference?

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: SithMaster on August 29, 2008, 04:44:45 pm ---Most books are canon. 

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Not by the reasonable definition of canon.  The word canon as it applies to books is pretty much either "the group acknowledged as being the work of writer X" or "the acknowledged religious sacred texts".  It's really stretching the usual definition of the word to apply it to a bunch of modern science fiction books by about 30 different people.  It's a bunch of books, yeah, and they have a big following, yeah, but canon just doesn't feel anything like a bunch of Star Wars books. 

Yeah, that's splitting hairs and yeah, I've read like 70 of them.   ;D  It just gets on my nerves a little bit when people talk about stuff like this in terms usually reserved for 2000 year old religious texts.

SithMaster:
Its a little like the debate someone started on the proper name for a computer mouse.  I guess I'm used to seeing it applied to more modern literature/media.

Have you been reading any of the recent stuff?  The Republic commando series is pretty good and actually goes into some of this cloning stuff.  Actually the next one involves what choices some of the clones make which is pretty big considering what one of them did (I don't want to spoil anything).

ChadTower:

Net yet... I'm on the other end of the timeline at the moment.  I'm usually 1-2 years behind release dates because I don't have time to keep up.  The last two I finished earlier this summer were Legacy of the Force Bloodlines and Darth Bane Path of Destruction.

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