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| MrMojoZ:
Don't confuse "made in China" with "made as cheaply as possible but you will buy it anyway because it costs less". Chinese factories make items as good as they are required to by the people paying for the product. If you don't like Happ Chinese sticks then Happ is the one who is responsible. Happ is running their products into the ground while trading on a name they made years ago, I won't be buying anymore of their stuff. |
| Ginsu Victim:
--- Quote from: MrMojoZ on September 17, 2008, 10:53:41 am ---Don't confuse "made in China" with "made as cheaply as possible but you will buy it anyway because it costs less". Chinese factories make items as good as they are required to by the people paying for the product. --- End quote --- That's pretty obvious. It doesn't matter where it's made, only who is behind it and how much they care about making a quality item. Go to a site like http://www.dealextreme.com/ to see examples of good products contrasted against cheap-as-all-hell products. |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: MrMojoZ on September 17, 2008, 10:53:41 am ---If you don't like Happ Chinese sticks then Happ is the one who is responsible. Happ is running their products into the ground while trading on a name they made years ago, I won't be buying anymore of their stuff. --- End quote --- As one who is very close to this situation, I can tell you that it's not intentional. If it were, then my complaints would have fallen on deaf ears, and they have not. My humble opinion is that they are merely suffering from what many American companies are suffering from and that is what I refer to as a "talent void". I get the feeling that the folks who were instrumental in these designs and knew what they did and why, simply aren't around anymore, and someone who doesn't really understand them was pushed into a situation where they had to deal with them. Sometimes an individual's best isn't good enough in a situation like this, so they have to rely on end-users to tell them what they need to do better. And BTW, this move to Chinese manufacturing was not a money grab. It was something they needed to do to stay competitive (read: in business) thus securing their future. There have been actual knockoffs of the HAPP designs being produced in China for some time now. Their main customers (the machine builders) tend to be more cost conscious and less astute than we tend to be, so HAPP found themselves competing against their own designs, but with a huge cost disadvantage. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where that would have led them. If the people in this community want to continue to have good parts at good prices, the answer is not to boycott, rather to help educate and hold them accountable so everyone wins. If you try to help and get ignored, that's a different case, but I don't believe that this is what is happening here. RandyT |
| kowal:
the difference on Competion (china-crap) and Eurojoystick (iL) is the same as difference between X - arcade (china -crap) and Compact Joystick (iL aka super joystick). but if someone on this forum ask: better to buy X-arcade or Happ Super? every would answer :HAPP super! because is original and Happ (iL) have better realization than BaoLian! :jerry :jerry and it is normal... RT do not tell that you checked, because You did not know where problem comes into being. you found first info on this subject lol! and You still do not believe! ;) |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: kowal on September 17, 2008, 12:43:40 pm ---the difference on Competion (china-crap) and Eurojoystick (iL) is the same as difference between X - arcade (china -crap) and Compact Joystick (iL aka super joystick). but if someone on this forum ask: better to buy X-arcade or Happ Super? every would answer :HAPP super! because is original and Happ (iL) have better realization than BaoLian! :jerry :jerry and it is normal... RT do not tell that you checked, because You did not know where problem comes into being. you found first info on this subject lol! and You still do not believe! ;) --- End quote --- Actually, if you ask anyone who owns an X-Arcade (and I have those sticks here as well) the only complaint on the sticks is that the switches are more "clicky". Most recommend changing the switches to Cherries. And you can believe what you want. My observations are ongoing and I see new Comp sticks everyday. Yours are based on 2 units that you purchased a year ago during the transitional phase. RandyT |
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