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RandyT:

--- Quote from: dmworking247 on September 16, 2008, 03:29:51 am ---Hahaha, I was just about to type "no I didn't" when I realised... wait a sec, yes I did... I bought two of the blue ones from you around March/April timeframe when I visited the US... they've been sitting in a box since then and I brought them out when I started building some desktop joysticks the other day.

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If so, then send them to me (actuators only) and I'll fix them and cover the return postage.


--- Quote ---I do have a drill press, but 9/16 is 14.2mm... which is a pretty odd metric measurement.  Is there a danger of boring them out too much? How precise does it have to be?

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.2mm is only about .008", if my math is correct, so 14mm will be fine. 15mm will give you too much slop.


--- Quote from: kowal on September 16, 2008, 08:35:32 am ---I respect your opinion (china happ vendor) :P

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I offer products from a number of vendors and don't have odd sentimental attachments to one or the other.  Either something works well or it doesn't, and when it doesn't, I work with that vendor to improve it for the benefit of everyone.  So far, you have just arbitrarily decided that anything that comes from China is junk, instead of applying some good engineering principles and stating why it is you believe this to be true.

Nationalism has no place in a discussion about the mechanical properties of a joystick.

RandyT
kowal:
wow Nationalism in discussion about joystick knockoff
 :notworthy: Godwin law :notworthy:

--- Quote ---I work with that vendor to improve it for the benefit of everyone
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improve is one - original from iL
RandyT:

--- Quote from: kowal on September 16, 2008, 12:56:31 pm ---joystick knockoff - original from iL

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Based on my conversations with industry insiders who were there at the time, it is far more appropriate to view this as the same exact design from a different manufacturer.  A "knockoff" implies IP theft, which is not the case here.

RandyT
CheffoJeffo:
Am I correct in my understanding that the issue is that the new actuators (they aren't really a knockoff if the order and specs come from the originating company) are a bit too tight ?

EDIT: I see Randy already addressed the bit about the term knockoff.


RandyT:

--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on September 16, 2008, 01:07:00 pm ---Am I correct in my understanding that the issue is that the new actuators (they aren't really a knockoff if the order and specs come from the originating company) are a bit too tight ?

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That's all.  The actuator is supposed to "float" in order to automatically square itself to the switches.  If it's too tight, it's possible to change the angle of the actuator face in relation to the switches by spinning the stick.  As spinning of the stick is inevitable (and often desirable) during use, the non-floating actuator makes for an odd switching dynamic.

All parts between the two manufacturers are completely interchangeable, which is why it is possible to swap the IL manufactured actuator for the HAPP part.

RandyT
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