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shmokes:
They also own the toilets in the bathrooms. Perhaps you shouldn't be concerned if they install cameras. ::)
This is exactly the kind of absurd black and white thinking I'm talking about. The importance of an individual's privacy doesn't disappear just because he/she walked onto company property. And just because you have the legal right to do something doesn't make it right. I know that the company can read any email you send through their servers, or any file you store on their hard drives. That doesn't make it right. As a network admin, on a couple of occasions I had supervisor's ask me to give them access to a person's email and one wanted me to set up PC Anywhere so that she could shadow an employee without the employee knowing it. On every occasion I told them that I could do it, but that I wouldn't without the director's approval. In every case the supervisor let it drop rather than going to the director.
I'm not saying that there is no situation in which a company could/should monitor employees like this. But it should be a retroactive, case-by-case situation. Proactively spying on employees in a fishing expedition for inappropriate behavior is ---smurfy---. It kills moral, costs the company money. And, frankly, it's dehumanizing. It shows that the company does not care about its employees as people. They are just resources to be used up for the fastest possible short-term gain.
Ed_McCarron:
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 09, 2008, 12:22:30 pm ---They also own the toilets in the bathrooms.
--- End quote ---
You should know better.
In a bathroom, you have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
On a company owned PC? Not so much.
Then again, I think towns should install surveillance cameras on all street corners.
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: Ed_McCarron on August 09, 2008, 10:15:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 09, 2008, 12:22:30 pm ---They also own the toilets in the bathrooms.
--- End quote ---
You should know better.
In a bathroom, you have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
On a company owned PC? Not so much.
Then again, I think towns should install surveillance cameras on all street corners.
--- End quote ---
move to london ;D
Ed_McCarron:
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on August 10, 2008, 04:54:44 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed_McCarron on August 09, 2008, 10:15:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 09, 2008, 12:22:30 pm ---They also own the toilets in the bathrooms.
--- End quote ---
You should know better.
In a bathroom, you have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
On a company owned PC? Not so much.
Then again, I think towns should install surveillance cameras on all street corners.
--- End quote ---
move to london ;D
--- End quote ---
Not sure if they help any there... Barry still seems to manage to get in trouble.
mccoy178:
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 09, 2008, 12:22:30 pm ---They also own the toilets in the bathrooms. Perhaps you shouldn't be concerned if they install cameras. ::)
This is exactly the kind of absurd black and white thinking I'm talking about. The importance of an individual's privacy doesn't disappear just because he/she walked onto company property. And just because you have the legal right to do something doesn't make it right. I know that the company can read any email you send through their servers, or any file you store on their hard drives. That doesn't make it right. As a network admin, on a couple of occasions I had supervisor's ask me to give them access to a person's email and one wanted me to set up PC Anywhere so that she could shadow an employee without the employee knowing it. On every occasion I told them that I could do it, but that I wouldn't without the director's approval. In every case the supervisor let it drop rather than going to the director.
I'm not saying that there is no situation in which a company could/should monitor employees like this. But it should be a retroactive, case-by-case situation. Proactively spying on employees in a fishing expedition for inappropriate behavior is ---smurfy---. It kills moral, costs the company money. And, frankly, it's dehumanizing. It shows that the company does not care about its employees as people. They are just resources to be used up for the fastest possible short-term gain.
--- End quote ---
I suppose it would be too republican of you to go buy your own laptop if you didn't like the companies policies? Would a company car with a gps locater be just as wrong in your opinion?
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