48 in 1 pcb board

[Hawk Daddy]

are these things worth it? 


I'm stuck between using the monitor that I already have 25 pulled from a mercs, or buying a tv, wiring up some xbox controllers and doing it that way.  The tv will be at least $200, for all the controller parts will be at minimum $70, and for the speaker system will be at least $50.  If I got the 48 in 1 pcb, I could spend probally no more the $15 for the controls and $10 for a speaker, maybe $20 for the jamma adapter and $30 for a power supply.  And of coarse $250 for the PCB, and be done with it that way.  What do you guys think about the multi boards?

Hawk

[FrizzleFried]

If you want to keep this thread,  you are going to want to remove the link.  It's OK to talk about these boards,  but being that they are bootlegs,  linking to the product is a no-no.

I have a 48-in-1 that I am prepping my Donkey Kong Jr. cabinet for.  I wanted a Multi-Kong,  with all 3 Kongs,  and this was,  by far,  the most economical way to do that.  I plan on keeping it 1 button, 4-way,  which eliminates a good chunk of the 48 games that come with the board,  but I don't care...everything above and beyond the DK, DK Jr., and DK3 is a bonus.

I've considered wiring either the P1 or P2 button as the 2nd button,  but aside from QIX,  I can't think of any other game on the board that is 4-way + 2 button...though I am likely missing a game or two...

My understanding of the board is that there are basically 3 different versions of this board floating around...lets call them A, B, and C.  A boards are the original with all the original components.  Aside from a couple of sound issues (I have seen 1942 sounds come up in discussions),  the board works as advertised.  The B & C boards are knock-offs of the A board and each gets progressively worse with the C boards having issues such as losing settings at power down,  game bugs, etc.

There is a nice write up on how to identify the A, B, and C boards over at the KLOV forums....search for 48 in 1 or 48 to 1.

[arcadefever]

i have one and i love it 

play qix everyday for the last 3 weeks 

[Level42]

Aren't these basicaly a PC running the games in some kind of emulation ?

F.I., Donkey Kong has hardware created sounds. These are sampled in MAME. How do these boards handle that ?
I am wondering just HOW close these boards come compared to the REAL orignal PCB's ?

[FrizzleFried]

The 48-in-1 boards are actual JAMMA arcade boards...not a PC running emulation software.  The other boards out there (111-in-1, 170-in-1, 465-in-1, and 1000-in-1) are all mini PC's running emulation software.  The 111, 170, and 465 in 1 boards use a memory card for storage while the 1000 in 1 actually comes with a hard drive with the roms stored on it.  The 48-in-1 is not quite the same.

I love my 48-in-1 board...there ARE some minor audio differences but gameplay and graphics are spot on. 

[Goz]

I have a 48 in 1 and love the thing. They just came out with a 60 in 1 single board jamma same style as the 48 in 1 that supports a trackball for games like Centipede, etc.. as well.

I also have a 170 in 1 (Horizontal) and a 465 in 1 (Vertical shooter) boards / systems.

[FrizzleFried]

Yup,  I have a 60-in-1 on the way to check it out.  It's actually a 55-in-1...4 pac games and galaga get repeated but with speed mode enabled.  Evidently enough people wanted BOTH versions available from the menu not just one at at time.  I enjoy Pooyan and used to play Congo Bongo a bit when I was a kid so this should be a fun upgrade.  Gun Fighter is going to require me to bust out a 3rd button though.

[FrizzleFried]

FYI:  The price difference between the 48-in-1 and 60-in-1 doesn't justify a purchase of a 60-in-1 unless you are specifically going to install it in a cabinet with a trackball.  The 7 new games included aren't all too impressive (Pooyan being my favorite...Congo Bongo my 2nd favorite and the other 5 being just "fluff" in my opinion),  and certainly not with the extra $70.00 on their own.  If you are going to hook the board up to a trackball however,  the $70.00 extra cost for 7 new games & TRACKBALL SUPPORT make it worth it (just barely). 

Personally,  I hope they remove the additional 5 "speed" games and put 5 more original games in there.  I'd love to see Crystal Castles or Marble Madness in there (it has trackball support now  you know)...

[ArcadEd]

They are great, especially for smaller applications.

I've built a few systems for customers (not providing the board of course).  Typically I don't include 6 buttons, but one customer requested it.



And a Movie showing it in action.

[FrizzleFried]

They are great, especially for smaller applications.

I've built a few systems for customers (not providing the board of course).  Typically I don't include 6 buttons, but one customer requested it.



And a Movie showing it in action.

Nice!   No need for 6 buttons though as the board only has one game (2 with the 60-in-1) that support 3 buttons...all others are 0, 1 or 2.  Unless,  of course,  you swap out the 48-in-1 and drop in a 1000-in-1.

...but I am not sure if they support VGA.

[javeryh]

Does this just pop into a motherboard slot like a graphics card or something?  How do they work?

[BobA]

Look at Hawk Daddy's first picture.  This is a standalone board the just plugs into the jamma harness of your cab.  There is no PC required.  It can support arcade monitors or PC monitors depending on the setting of the board.  The most common seem to be the 48 in 1 and 60 in 1 for vertical games.  The monitor must be placed vertically.

[pcb]

The 48-in-1 boards are actual JAMMA arcade boards...not a PC running emulation software. 

Let's be honest, they are emulation boards also.  Just not running on an X86 chip.  Yes, they are JAMMA, but so are the PC boards, just cheaper hardward in the X-in-1 boards.

[FrizzleFried]

The 48-in-1 boards are actual JAMMA arcade boards...not a PC running emulation software.

Let's be honest, they are emulation boards also.  Just not running on an X86 chip.  Yes, they are JAMMA, but so are the PC boards, just cheaper hardward in the X-in-1 boards.

No...the PC boards are actual PC's sandwiched together with a JAMMA I/O board.  Much less reliable.  Much more problems.  The 48-in-1, 60-in-1, and 19-in-1 boards are all damn near bulletproof... many many many hours on each without so much as a problem....

The PC based "sandwich" boards take 2-3 minutes to load,  and aren't very reliable from my perspective. 

[pcb]

The 48-in1s are still emulation boards, like the Multicade board from ArcadeShop.   I agree, they are not PC based, but they are emulation.  The new Namco Ms Pac/Galaga or the DK/DKJr/Mario are emulations too.

[FrizzleFried]

The 48-in1s are still emulation boards, like the Multicade board from ArcadeShop.   I agree, they are not PC based, but they are emulation.  The new Namco Ms Pac/Galaga or the DK/DKJr/Mario are emulations too.

Oh,  I don't deny they are emulation...but they are quite a bit more reliable than the PC based boards which are simply MAME PC's running through a JAMMA I/O board.

[pcb]

Oh,  I don't deny they are emulation...but they are quite a bit more reliable than the PC based boards which are simply MAME PC's running through a JAMMA I/O board.

Agreed.   

[joe average]

I've got one of the 60 in 1 boards hooked up in my old Centipede cab.  I got it just because of the trackball support.  Also you can not use it with the original centipede trackball.  I had to upgrade to a newer trackball of the same size to get it up and running.  Something about an encoder or some such being not compatiable.  Anyhow I use it just for centipede and millipede and pulled my old centipede board with jamma adaptor out.  Maybe a slight difference in color between the original and the 60 board but nothing else that I've seen other than the atari name being missing.

[Ummon]

I've got one of the 60 in 1 boards hooked up in my old Centipede cab.  I got it just because of the trackball support.  Also you can not use it with the original centipede trackball.  I had to upgrade to a newer trackball of the same size to get it up and running.  Something about an encoder or some such being not compatiable.  Anyhow I use it just for centipede and millipede and pulled my old centipede board with jamma adaptor out.  Maybe a slight difference in color between the original and the 60 board but nothing else that I've seen other than the atari name being missing.

What do you mean? Most arcade trackballs don't have encoders.

[FrizzleFried]

He means the older optic boards aren't compatible.

[ToplessZ]

Im not sure where you are looking but 48-1 pcb's dont cost 250.00, (maybe when this thread first started?)  LOL I'll sell you them for 200.00 if your willing to pay 250!  Of course they only cost 90 or less if you order in bulk now!  Even the 60-1s are around 120.00.

[Ummon]

He means the older optic boards aren't compatible.

Thanks, that's what I though, but wanted to be sure. Do you know what's different about the boards?