Author Topic: 2008 BYOAC Token FRONT SIDE Design Thread (Read 44636 times)

Santoro · « **on:** July 20, 2008, 09:38:03 pm »

This thread is for the design discussions and proposals regarding the FRONT side of the 2008 BYOAC token.

We are designing .984" (25mm) tokens. So that all entries are judged equally, submissions should be in grayscale only, without bling. (Bling refers to color, photorealistic renderings. If we get a volunteer to bling all entries at the end equally, we can do that.) White should indicate the lowest point of the token, black the highest. If you want to show partial-height details use shades of gray, Different levels of gray are OK. Of interest as you design, the 'lowest' or 'deepest' point on the token will usually be shiny because it doesn't require machining.

So that those of us who are not Photoshop Gurus are given a fair shot , no 'blinged' renderings should be posted.

Guidelines/Rules
-No R-Rated material
-No trademarked or copyrighted images. (Pacman, etc...)
-MAME references are OK though, we have approval to use the logo if we like as long as we respect the spirit of MAME - i.e. no references to playing thousands of games, etc.
-No Bling - refer to the 2004 thread below to see how blinged line art turns out.
-Should display "Build Your Own Arcade Controls" (or at least "BYOAC") and the www.arcadecontrols.com URL because BYOAC is the whole point of the tokens.
-If at all possible you should have your art in vector format. (Adobe Illustrator AI for example.) Next best is very high-res raster (Hi-res meaning greater than or equal to 300DPI,) but I discourage it because we have always used vector with superb results. Low-res artwork won't work, you will need to have someone fix it up for you.
-Vector fonts need to be converted to curves.
- .002" is the absolute minimum line width. While lines can be reproduced at this scale, text may not be readable for being too small.
-The 'lowest' or 'deepest' point on the token will usually be shiny because it doesn't require machining.

If you are submitting what you consider your final proposal, please say so in your post. Otherwise we will assume you are submitting it for group discussion and tweaking.

This is a good sample from 2004:

Here are previous years' threads for reference.
2007 Back
2006 Front
2006 Back
2005 Front
2005 Back
2004 combined thread

Final Designs must be submitted to this thread no later than August 24, Midnight Eastern Standard Time. This is a strict deadline so that we don't wind up delivering the tokens in December like last year.

After that date I will create voting threads with the final entries.

saint · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2008, 12:41:57 am »

WOOT!

dstone · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2008, 08:13:11 pm »

And here's one for the front.

G1zm0 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2008, 05:15:14 am »

should make them 2009 and not 08, makes better sence since 2008 nearly up

and would make good xmass present

fatfingers · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2008, 09:13:50 am »

Quote from: G1zm0 on July 22, 2008, 05:15:14 am

should make them 2009 and not 08, makes better sence since 2008 nearly up

and would make good xmass present

You wouldn't happen to be in the automobile manufacturing business, would you?

vorghagen · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2008, 09:46:19 am »

Been eagerly awaiting the 2008 design comp. It's always great to see the incredible stuff this bunch comes up with.
As with previous years, I'm in for 200 as long as they're half decent, so get designing people. Whoohoo.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2008, 01:00:34 pm »

time to fire up photoshop

sez · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2008, 11:56:06 pm »

For group discussion and tweaking. Gotta throw my hat in.

Sez.

vorghagen · « **Reply #8 on:** July 23, 2008, 01:05:22 am »

I like the background with the repeated BYOAC but the picture is terrible. Took me a while to actually figure out what it was, perhaps if you spin it around and lower the viewpoint so we're looking more from behind the player?

Santoro · « **Reply #9 on:** July 23, 2008, 10:23:01 am »

That was subtle.

leapinlew · « **Reply #10 on:** July 23, 2008, 09:49:22 pm »

Quote from: vorghagen on July 23, 2008, 01:05:22 am

but the picture is terrible. Took me a while to actually figure out what it was

I think it looks cool. I like that you look at it for a bit, and it has that ah ha! kind of moment. Much like playing games of the 80's.

Vorghagen, don't make us all suffer because someone creates a design too clever for you to understand.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #11 on:** July 23, 2008, 10:26:25 pm »

Too clever? He did figure it out. It was tough for me to figure out at first too. Regardless, I don't particularly care for it, other than the background which I like.

sez · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2008, 10:46:28 pm »

Quote from: TheShanMan on July 23, 2008, 10:26:25 pm

Too clever? He did figure it out. It was tough for me to figure out at first too. Regardless, I don't particularly care for it, other than the background which I like.

S'okay. I'm a big girl and appreciate the honesty. Shall tweak some more accordingly, and not just my nipples this time.

I'd be interested to see your design too fellas. Get cracking.

vorghagen · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2008, 10:48:48 pm »

OK. Sorry, my bad.
I could have phrased that a little better. I don't mean to be outright mean in criticising her design, especially since my own design skills are near zero, just trying to be constructive. I said what I liked, what I didn't like, why I didn't like it and what I thought might make it better. Isn't that the whole point of "group discussion and tweaking"?

Sez, my sincere apologies if I offended you. I really do appreciate people willing to design the tokens for byoac and hope that you will continue to do so. I will try to be more subtle in future.

EDIT: his/her mistake. oops.

Donkey_Kong · « **Reply #14 on:** July 23, 2008, 11:11:10 pm »

Quote from: vorghagen on July 23, 2008, 10:48:48 pm

OK. Sorry, my bad.
I could have phrased that a little better. I don't mean to be outright mean in criticising his design, especially since my own design skills are near zero, just trying to be constructive. I said what I liked, what I didn't like, why I didn't like it and what I thought might make it better. Isn't that the whole point of "group discussion and tweaking"?

Sez, my sincere apologies if I offended you. I really do appreciate people willing to design the tokens for byoac and hope that you will continue to do so. I will try to be more subtle in future.

Open your eyes...Sez=she, not he. FYI: Your comprehension skills are freakin' terrible.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #15 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:25:23 am »

Quote from: sez on July 23, 2008, 10:46:28 pm

Quote from: TheShanMan on July 23, 2008, 10:26:25 pm
Too clever? He did figure it out. It was tough for me to figure out at first too. Regardless, I don't particularly care for it, other than the background which I like.

S'okay. I'm a big girl and appreciate the honesty. Shall tweak some more accordingly, and not just my nipples this time.

I'd be interested to see your design too fellas. Get cracking.

I'm no artist either, but like I said, I do like the background - I'd love to see it end up on a token. So definitely a positive contribution!

sez · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2008, 04:20:07 am »

Let's try again. Got four examples of a similar style - some lighter, some darker.

These are also open to discussion and/or tweaking. Let me know which you prefer (if any).

Regards
Sez.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2008, 07:16:59 am »

what no happy kangaroos?

Sez, I really like the background idea. your second set of designs is awesome. Drafts 3 and 4 are top notch...

of course your first design (Sez_Token Front_01.png) of the woman wearing an apron making me sandwiches while I play games is also cool.... :yikes

missioncontrol · « **Reply #18 on:** July 24, 2008, 08:01:18 am »

Throwing this link here as a reminder to myself, I'm going to rework my last year design and not sure if I sill have the files:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=66658.0

Turnarcades · « **Reply #19 on:** July 24, 2008, 08:21:39 am »

Like the last design shown, with the guy in black (highest point on the token). I quite like the prospect of a 'Matrix' style lettering effect though, like the green Matrix code you see on the films. Perhaps you could replicate that effect, with the BYOAC lettering?

TheShanMan · « **Reply #20 on:** July 24, 2008, 09:07:46 am »

Quote from: missioncontrol on July 24, 2008, 07:16:59 am

Sez, I really like the background idea. your second set of designs is awesome. Drafts 3 and 4 are top notch...

Agreed. #4 I think is the best.

Quote from: missioncontrol on July 24, 2008, 07:16:59 am

of course your first design (Sez_Token Front_01.png) of the woman wearing an apron making me sandwiches while I play games is also cool.... :yikes

sez · « **Reply #21 on:** July 24, 2008, 09:43:37 am »

Quote from: missioncontrol on July 24, 2008, 07:16:59 am

what no happy kangaroos?

Sez, I really like the background idea. your second set of designs is awesome. Drafts 3 and 4 are top notch...

of course your first design (Sez_Token Front_01.png) of the woman wearing an apron making me sandwiches while I play games is also cool.... :yikes

Thanks peanut.

vorghagen · « **Reply #22 on:** July 24, 2008, 11:00:55 pm »

Another vote for #4. Great design.
I like the idea in #1 of having the picture a kind of watermark behind the writing but I'm not sure if it'd work too well on a token.
Love the design of the player too, the kind that really gets into the game they're playing moving their body as much as the joysticks.

That matrix lettering idea that turnarcades suggested sounds pretty good too.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2008, 07:55:19 am »

The Matrix idea is way too played out...

The style Sez first made me think of the Time Out tokens.

The main reason Mr. C's token was such a big hit was the vintage aspect of it and had the mechanical feel of the token pushers found in 80's arcades. If we are playing the games of our past, we need to keep a dated feel to the coins. Perhaps a more 80's feel this time. Using the Matrix idea gives it too much a late 90's/early 2000's feel...

fatfingers · « **Reply #24 on:** July 25, 2008, 08:16:47 am »

I still really love jfunk's 'army of 1ups' coin.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #25 on:** July 25, 2008, 07:55:43 pm »

here's what I've got so far... still a WIP

dstone · « **Reply #26 on:** July 26, 2008, 02:08:19 am »

I'm torn between the fonts. The first has that wonderful retro feel while the second flows better and is easier to read. The dot matrix, while quite interesting, seems to chop up the text too much. Thoughts?

MinerAl · « **Reply #27 on:** July 26, 2008, 10:45:58 am »

Sez.

I love the new design with the side of the cab.

For the background, which is sweet, the pattern is broken by the first letters on the left. Could you make it so that B Y O A C is always in order? (So there's never YYOAC and OYOAC and AYOAC etc.) Go ahead and start the middle five rows with B Y O A and C, but make sure the next letter is the next in that series. And put the first letter of each row back to Black, that was cool

Code: [Select]

    B Y O A C B
  B Y O A C B Y O
B Y O A C B Y O A C
Y O A C B Y O A C B
O A C B Y O A C B Y
A C B Y O A C B Y O
C B Y O A C B Y O A
  Y O A C B Y O A
    A C B Y O A

jfunk · « **Reply #28 on:** July 26, 2008, 01:05:27 pm »

Quote from: fatfingers on July 25, 2008, 08:16:47 am

I still really love jfunk's 'army of 1ups' coin.

Thanx! I still like it, too.. But I mostly think it's better for a 'back' design.. Here' my favorite version:

missioncontrol · « **Reply #29 on:** July 26, 2008, 08:56:31 pm »

attempt #2 along with attempt #1 don't know why the thumbnails of my PNG file look bad here, must be my hidden layers

anyways... all comments welcome, the good, the bad, whatever....

EDIT: added 3rd design

EDIT: and 4th design

ChadTower · « **Reply #30 on:** July 27, 2008, 05:23:03 pm »

Mission, if you turn your cab sideways, it doesn't say 2008... it says NOOB.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #31 on:** July 27, 2008, 05:27:23 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 27, 2008, 05:23:03 pm

Mission, if you turn your cab sideways, it doesn't say 2008... it says NOOB.

lol, yeah, I guess I need a better font for that....

MameMaster! · « **Reply #32 on:** July 28, 2008, 02:55:37 pm »

Quote from: missioncontrol on July 25, 2008, 07:55:19 am

The Matrix idea is way too played out...

The style Sez first made me think of the Time Out tokens.

The main reason Mr. C's token was such a big hit was the vintage aspect of it and had the mechanical feel of the token pushers found in 80's arcades. If we are playing the games of our past, we need to keep a dated feel to the coins. Perhaps a more 80's feel this time. Using the Matrix idea gives it too much a late 90's/early 2000's feel...

You know...Mission, this just sparked an idea. How about some Repro tokens Sanotoro? I would love a set of minty Time Out tokens from the 80's.

Since they're long out of business...I would imagine you could do it no?

fatfingers · « **Reply #33 on:** July 30, 2008, 04:01:36 pm »

Here is my lame-o attempt. I was really trying to come up with something to go with jfunk's 'army of 1UPs', but I don't think I succeeeded.

sez · « **Reply #34 on:** July 31, 2008, 05:41:15 am »

Some more designs.

Front_take 3

EDIT : Refer "Back Design" thread for, well, the back of course!

fatfingers · « **Reply #35 on:** August 01, 2008, 02:49:54 pm »

I'm confused. Somehow I had the idea we only got 3 layers or different depths on the coin -- is that not true? Santoro mentions allowing multiple shades of gray in the coin???

Santoro · « **Reply #36 on:** August 01, 2008, 03:34:30 pm »

No limits that I am aware of. I wouldn't go nuts however.

edit: Clarification... They must be discrete levels of gray. You can't design true 3d objects because the Mint will want to charge 'coin' rates which are out of my reach.

stan2323 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 01, 2008, 07:23:09 pm »

Quote from: sez on July 31, 2008, 05:41:15 am

Some more designs.

Front_take 3

This is my favorite so far.

sez · « **Reply #38 on:** August 03, 2008, 06:15:07 am »

Quote from: stan2323 on August 01, 2008, 07:23:09 pm

Quote from: sez on July 31, 2008, 05:41:15 am
Some more designs.

Front_take 3

This is my favorite so far.

Thanks dude

fatfingers · « **Reply #39 on:** August 04, 2008, 11:36:04 am »

Another attempt at making a front for jfunk's 'army of 1ups'. Probably we'd have to modify one or the other to have the same 'outer ring' design. I tried, but I don't have the skills.

ChadTower · « **Reply #40 on:** August 04, 2008, 11:44:02 am »

I kind of like that one. It has a PBS Sesame Street feel for some reason.

fatfingers · « **Reply #41 on:** August 04, 2008, 11:52:13 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 04, 2008, 11:44:02 am

I kind of like that one. It has a PBS Sesame Street feel for some reason.

fatfingers · « **Reply #42 on:** August 04, 2008, 03:58:38 pm »

A couple more minor variations...

ChadTower · « **Reply #43 on:** August 04, 2008, 04:02:58 pm »

Okay now it looks like a religious token.

fatfingers · « **Reply #44 on:** August 04, 2008, 04:10:00 pm »

Heh. Well, we are all followers of the 1-UP guy religion...no?

vorghagen · « **Reply #45 on:** August 05, 2008, 02:17:44 am »

You got some pretty good token designs there, Fatfingers. Personally I like the one with BYOAC written straight, without the religious looking variations.
The way that 1up is standing made me think of having those men spell out BYOAC in the same way cheerleaders do, or the village people during YMCA. Anyone care to give that a shot?

xbakesx · « **Reply #46 on:** August 07, 2008, 11:33:14 am »

Here's my "YMCA" design... it's obviously very raw, and I'm not a huge fan, but maybe somebody can start here

ChadTower · « **Reply #47 on:** August 07, 2008, 11:40:10 am »

Hrm... I think they're trying to tell us something. This means something. This is important.

xbakesx · « **Reply #48 on:** August 07, 2008, 12:21:14 pm »

I made this design too... it only has one side, and it's hopefully it is not breaking the "copyright" rule... because it stinks of pacman... but that was kind of the point.

I also liked FatFinger's joystick one, and made my own... It's got a long way to go, but if it inspires someone, it was worth it!

fatfingers · « **Reply #49 on:** August 07, 2008, 01:49:34 pm »

Here's my 'ymca', although it's not really ymca-like.

xbakesx · « **Reply #50 on:** August 07, 2008, 02:00:39 pm »

While we're going Player 1 man crazy, I have this design too.

WunderCade · « **Reply #51 on:** August 07, 2008, 05:47:49 pm »

Could this be incorporated into the design somehow?

vorghagen · « **Reply #52 on:** August 08, 2008, 04:53:14 am »

Quote from: WunderCade on August 07, 2008, 05:47:49 pm

Could this be incorporated into the design somehow?

No.

No no no no no and no.
Because..... well........ no.

Ummon · « **Reply #53 on:** August 10, 2008, 11:30:51 pm »

Quote from: sez on July 31, 2008, 05:41:15 am

Some more designs.

Front_take 3

EDIT : Refer "Back Design" thread for, well, the back of course!

Mmmm, I dunno. It doesn't stand out. And it looks sorta patriotic, like a waving flag. It doesn't say games. However, it might be okay on the back and then the front having some icon with BYOAC.

fatfingers · « **Reply #54 on:** August 11, 2008, 04:33:08 pm »

My latest attempt... "Army of Cabinets"...

TheShanMan · « **Reply #55 on:** August 11, 2008, 04:59:15 pm »

Something I've been wondering, seeing that some of the designs have a high level of detail... How well will tiny details transfer to an actual token?

thatitalian · « **Reply #56 on:** August 12, 2008, 08:56:49 am »

Quote from: fatfingers on August 11, 2008, 04:33:08 pm

My latest attempt... "Army of Cabinets"...

I actually really like this, it needs a bit of work, maybe on the text or the detail around the rim but the concept is good! Maybe someone could play with or tweak this, assuming it is ok with you fatfingers?

Nice work!

fatfingers · « **Reply #57 on:** August 12, 2008, 09:56:35 am »

Quote from: thatitalian on August 12, 2008, 08:56:49 am

Quote from: fatfingers on August 11, 2008, 04:33:08 pm

My latest attempt... "Army of Cabinets"...

I actually really like this, it needs a bit of work, maybe on the text or the detail around the rim but the concept is good! Maybe someone could play with or tweak this, assuming it is ok with you fatfingers?

Nice work!

Fine with me. I have no artistic skills.

xbakesx · « **Reply #58 on:** August 12, 2008, 03:31:37 pm »

Not quite the Army of Cabinets, nor is there much better artistic-ability here, but it's my hall of arcades

ChadTower · « **Reply #59 on:** August 12, 2008, 03:49:31 pm »

That one would be pretty cool if the cabinets were better. It's a good start.

xbakesx · « **Reply #60 on:** August 12, 2008, 03:55:24 pm »

I know how quality isn't a subjective thing... but it would be easier to make them better with a little more constructive suggestion.

ChadTower · « **Reply #61 on:** August 12, 2008, 03:57:04 pm »

Perspective that better matches your average upright video cab, I guess. Those look a lot like 50s era EMs in shape.

Ummon · « **Reply #62 on:** August 12, 2008, 11:58:24 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 12, 2008, 03:57:04 pm

Perspective that better matches your average upright video cab, I guess. Those look a lot like 50s era EMs in shape.

Yeah, adding to this, they look squat and boxy.

thatitalian · « **Reply #63 on:** August 13, 2008, 07:31:44 am »

Again, this is another good design! I like this theme. It is also good as a general token as it isn't game specific but still remains arcade focused, much like the mame token.

JONTHEBOMB · « **Reply #64 on:** August 15, 2008, 10:03:59 pm »

I really like the Army of Cabinets design so far.

Here are some suggestions:
- Each cabinet should be unique in some way. Whether it is the controls, artwork, design, etc.
- A few of the upright cabinets could be replaced with other games like a pinball machine or a cocktail.
- The background needs something. Example: carpet with a space theme.
- The BYOAC logo is a tad too bold and it is covering up some of the cabinets.

Keep up good work!

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #65 on:** August 18, 2008, 01:15:47 pm »

YIKES! Don't know how I missed this thread for the last month.

Is the deadline still next Sunday (8/24)?

fatfingers · « **Reply #66 on:** August 18, 2008, 01:49:44 pm »

PIXEL PIXEL PIXEL PIXEL PIXEL

(I vote we give Pixel a little extra time if he needs it)

sez · « **Reply #67 on:** August 19, 2008, 09:43:32 am »

Last attempt by me.

Front design.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #68 on:** August 21, 2008, 11:20:20 am »

a combination of my background and Sez's foreground. Not an official submission without her approval. It would also need a little clean up.

xbakesx · « **Reply #69 on:** August 21, 2008, 11:28:06 am »

Well, I got distracted with other projects, but here's a revamped "Hall of Arcades"

missioncontrol · « **Reply #70 on:** August 21, 2008, 11:29:04 am »

you need a better slogan xbakesx

ChadTower · « **Reply #71 on:** August 21, 2008, 11:38:49 am »

Yeah, I like xbakesx' art but the slogan needs to change. And maybe the 2008 to normal text rather than fading into perspective like that.

xbakesx · « **Reply #72 on:** August 21, 2008, 11:45:07 am »

I'll keep working on a new slogan. If you've got one you like let me know!

Maybe the 2008 should be just one depth and lighter so it looks more like it's on the floor?

xbakesx · « **Reply #73 on:** August 21, 2008, 11:56:26 am »

Busy day at work...

The second one is in case the slogan is so gut wrenching that you need it to be blank to put your own thoughts there

ChadTower · « **Reply #74 on:** August 21, 2008, 12:00:10 pm »

Welcome To Paradise

It Fits In Your Basement

saint · « **Reply #75 on:** August 21, 2008, 12:13:10 pm »

Damn, a good crop again this year. Santoro - just make more than one token this year.

There, I have spoken.

* saint goes and hides.

ChadTower · « **Reply #76 on:** August 21, 2008, 12:59:37 pm »

Does saint look like Tom Selleck?

saint · « **Reply #77 on:** August 21, 2008, 01:57:06 pm »

Saint:
<------------------------

dstone · « **Reply #78 on:** August 22, 2008, 01:48:38 am »

Final.

thatitalian · « **Reply #79 on:** August 22, 2008, 05:47:33 am »

Quote from: xbakesx on August 21, 2008, 11:28:06 am

Well, I got distracted with other projects, but here's a revamped "Hall of Arcades"

Now that is a kick ass design!

JONTHEBOMB · « **Reply #80 on:** August 22, 2008, 07:21:41 pm »

Slogan ideas for any token:

- Work hard, Play harder

- Preventing arcade extinction

- Fun to build, Fun to play

- Creating authentic arcade experiences

- Till death we play

- Reclaiming our former glories

- Restoring our former glories

- Reliving our past fame

- Living dreams for just a quarter

- Recreating lost memories

- Play On

- Lose yourself

vorghagen · « **Reply #81 on:** August 22, 2008, 11:48:51 pm »

Quote from: xbakesx on August 21, 2008, 11:28:06 am

Well, I got distracted with other projects, but here's a revamped "Hall of Arcades"

LOVE this design! Absolutely fantastic! I think it would be awesome with Chad's suggested slogan of

Quote from: ChadTower on August 21, 2008, 12:00:10 pm

Welcome To Paradise
It Fits In Your Basement

or something similar.

dstone · « **Reply #82 on:** August 24, 2008, 12:57:50 pm »

A slogan that I particularly like:

For Love of the Game

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #83 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:17:17 am »

AAAARRRRRRGH.

Out of time. Please understand this is rough. I would still need to add tools to the tool belt, redraw the measuring tape, add byoac to the swimsuit etc. And of course vectorize the whole thing since this is still a pencil sketch compiled from a bunch of different drafts in an attempt to save precious time.

Ran out of time doing the matching (and appropriately designed "tails") side.

Guess there's no pleading for an extension....

missioncontrol · « **Reply #84 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:28:23 am »

awesome

pointdablame · « **Reply #85 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:37:10 am »

awesome Pixel -- someone give this man an extension!

And just ignore that it's pixel and the coin may take as long as his cab to finish

Ed_McCarron · « **Reply #86 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:49:00 am »

Quote from: Pixelhugger on August 18, 2008, 01:15:47 pm

YIKES! Don't know how I missed this thread for the last month.

Too busy working on your cabinet?

xbakesx · « **Reply #87 on:** August 25, 2008, 11:36:30 am »

Pixel, if you let me know where to send it, I can send you my psd file, to give you a starting point, at least with your background (seems similar enough).

I can't attach it here cause it's a little too big.

ChadTower · « **Reply #88 on:** August 25, 2008, 11:55:29 am »

I love that design... probably will get me booed out of the building but I'd suggest toning the sexuality of the woman down a bit. Peoples' kids and wives are going to be using these tokens too.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #89 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:05:20 pm »

wow Chad, do you not let your kids watch TV, read magazines, and blindfold them so they can't see billboards while you go out for a drive?

saint · « **Reply #90 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:06:19 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 25, 2008, 11:55:29 am

I love that design... probably will get me booed out of the building but I'd suggest toning the sexuality of the woman down a bit. Peoples' kids and wives are going to be using these tokens too.

I'm with Chad on both points. I love the design (I loved this design http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=6164.0 if anyone remembers it) but it may limit the potential market. Something almost exactly the same but with Lara Croft style shorts might be in order?

ChadTower · « **Reply #91 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:16:31 pm »

Quote from: missioncontrol on August 25, 2008, 12:05:20 pm

wow Chad, do you not let your kids watch TV, read magazines, and blindfold them so they can't see billboards while you go out for a drive?

There is a difference, as a parent, between preventing exposure and actively supplying such things. They see them outside and that's life. This does not mean their father should be handing the same level of materials to them in the home. It is not about restriction.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #92 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:52:24 pm »

I wholeheartedly agree. Love the token design, and it would be fine if just for me. But my 6 year old is at least as much of an arcade addict as I am, and he has entered the phase of being fascinated by women (especially when scantily clad), kissing, etc. I'm certainly not going to do anything to prod that along in him at such an early age!

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #93 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:55:49 pm »

I really like the Lara Croft shorts idea. May also help add to the tool belt concept. The swimsuit was feeling a bit out of place in the arcade anyway. That'd be a nice solution. Santoro.... is it worth putting something together like that or has time run out?

I also sympathize on the wife and kids comment. I was trying to keep the design no sexier than Dragon's Lair or Space Ace while maintaining a sort of "calendar" feel (without which it felt strange to have a girl on the token

) So I agree putting some shorts on her would certainly help and I don't think it would necessarily detract from the... uhhh... playfulness of it.

That said, my six year old daughter picked up the sketch I was making for the front and her eyes popped out and she gasped: Whooooooooah. Is that me? Is that Wonder Woman?? WOW Daddy. Who IS that? Of course I should have said it's mommy.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #94 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:56:33 pm »

OK so I'll take the cleavage out too.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #95 on:** August 25, 2008, 12:59:36 pm »

And the "drop shadows"

ChadTower · « **Reply #96 on:** August 25, 2008, 01:04:19 pm »

You don't have to take the cleavage out but maybe make it so that it is actually physically possible without enhancements.

Limit her to a C-D cup rather than an F, I guess.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #97 on:** August 25, 2008, 01:16:21 pm »

See, I saw the Dragon's Lair or Space Ace connection with the chick. Guess you'll have to make her more pixilated and blocky as to not offend someone...

saint · « **Reply #98 on:** August 25, 2008, 01:19:18 pm »

Quote from: Pixelhugger on August 25, 2008, 12:56:33 pm

OK so I'll take the cleavage out too.

nonononononononononononono

fatfingers · « **Reply #99 on:** August 25, 2008, 02:12:47 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 25, 2008, 11:55:29 am

I love that design...

Santoro · « **Reply #100 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:52:00 pm »

Alright, here's the deal. I am busy as all hell with my job and working on a few new business pursuits. As such I won't be able to manage the polls in the next week or so anyway.

I know I said I won't extend the deadline, but at this point there is no harm, so what the heck. Let's go two more weeks. I will also send PMs to all the previous winners to be sure they see the threads.

(That is a courtesy I probably should have thought of at the beginning. Sorry Pixel.)

Santoro · « **Reply #101 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:59:16 pm »

Also - my 2 cents on the curvy woman. I like curvy women.

That said, I think that there are going to be a significant number of households where the design is racy enough to put off potential buyers. Every year so far we just eke out enough demand for a full run of tokens and I don't think we can afford to alienate even 10% of the potential buyers or their wives.

I do think a tasteful but sexy woman is possible, and if anyone can do it - Pixelhugger can.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #102 on:** August 25, 2008, 08:06:33 pm »

WOOT!

Havok · « **Reply #103 on:** September 06, 2008, 12:53:46 am »

ok, Pixel wins!

Santoro - when can we get these into production?

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #104 on:** September 07, 2008, 04:53:31 pm »

Here is the t shirt and shorts version. Still rough. Added tshirt, carpenter shorts and reduced certain "proportions"

saint · « **Reply #105 on:** September 07, 2008, 05:16:52 pm »

Looks awesome! (Bring back the proportions

)

TheShanMan · « **Reply #106 on:** September 07, 2008, 05:54:16 pm »

Lol! Ditto (in my book nothing wrong with a hot lady as long as it's not too revealing).

Of course, ultimately Santoro needs to feel confident that it won't limit his potential sales.

ChadTower · « **Reply #107 on:** September 08, 2008, 09:45:50 am »

Works for me.

What's in her hand? Is that a power cord? Love the spade bit and drill rather than a gun.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #108 on:** September 08, 2008, 10:57:27 am »

Well, it's a measuring tape... which would look more like one in a final version.

sez · « **Reply #109 on:** September 09, 2008, 03:43:35 am »

It's an arcade token fer sh!ts sake and a damn good one at that.

I find it staggering that some women would take offence to a freaking coin.

Cheese and rice!!

Havok · « **Reply #110 on:** September 18, 2008, 01:15:30 am »

Looks awesome! Just needs a little work on the hips and legs.

boogieman · « **Reply #111 on:** September 18, 2008, 08:52:21 pm »

darn i wish it was cold in that arcade...

I really like that coin, enough to buy for sure!

fatfingers · « **Reply #112 on:** September 30, 2008, 04:35:51 pm »

*tick, tock, tick tock*

Santoro · « **Reply #113 on:** October 02, 2008, 03:28:22 pm »

Been busy, sorry about that....

I think we've got all the design concepts we are going to get, so no new entries will be accepted. I would ask everyone that submitted something to spend the next week getting your 'final' design ready and post it here. If the last one you posted IS the final one, please say so.

dstone · « **Reply #114 on:** October 03, 2008, 04:28:05 pm »

My final is at the bottom of page 2.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #115 on:** October 06, 2008, 07:45:05 am »

Quote from: Santoro on October 02, 2008, 03:28:22 pm

Been busy, sorry about that....

I think we've got all the design concepts we are going to get, so no new entries will be accepted. I would ask everyone that submitted something to spend the next week getting your 'final' design ready and post it here. If the last one you posted IS the final one, please say so.

my final:

xbakesx · « **Reply #116 on:** October 06, 2008, 09:32:42 am »

My final is at the bottom of page two, as well, but that seems like it can change so I'll repost the same images.

fatfingers · « **Reply #117 on:** October 06, 2008, 02:47:17 pm »

This is my final:

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #118 on:** October 23, 2008, 06:20:33 pm »

Ouch this was painful to vectorize and keep the details big enough.

Background (carpet and "sky") would be stippled to give the image lots of depth.

saint · « **Reply #119 on:** October 24, 2008, 10:15:23 am »

That's awesome!

ChadTower · « **Reply #120 on:** October 24, 2008, 10:17:19 am »

Very awesome. Can we assume her legs will be more visible on the token? I had to change my monitor settings to even find them.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #121 on:** October 24, 2008, 10:23:40 pm »

Everything will be more clearly visible. The detail resolved on the coin is far greater than what the screen resolves. You definitely should not judge visibility from the file at it's attached size.

That said... you won't see any further down the legs.. ie to the feet.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #122 on:** October 24, 2008, 10:58:51 pm »

Looks great! Very tastefully done, although a little more size wouldn't hurt.

I'd like to get some of these! My wife was reluctant to get the 200 tokens I have now, but with the size of my cab collection on the rise, I think I can justify it!

tevans333 · « **Reply #123 on:** October 29, 2008, 07:02:30 pm »

Absolutely great designs by everyone. I must have missed it somewhere, but how/when/how much to get a hold of some of these?

TheShanMan · « **Reply #124 on:** October 29, 2008, 09:49:16 pm »

Santoro sells them on his site: http://www.arcadetokens.com/

dstone · « **Reply #125 on:** November 10, 2008, 12:43:37 pm »

Should we change the dates to 2009?

ChadTower · « **Reply #126 on:** November 10, 2008, 02:34:16 pm »

This timeframe is normal. Pixelhugger gets it done when he can - it's a hobby and we're all cool with it.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #127 on:** November 10, 2008, 04:09:11 pm »

I doubt it was meant as a criticism. It's a good point though. In fact, when I started considering tokens at the beginning of this year my first thought was "I should probably wait for the 2008 tokens because they're probably coming out any time now". I think with it being an end of the year project, it makes more sense to date it for the following year. So while labeling them 2008 wouldn't prevent me from buying them, I would rather see them labeled 2009.

ChadTower · « **Reply #128 on:** November 10, 2008, 04:25:39 pm »

That would cause there to be no 2008 tokens. Remember that they go back a few years. No one wants a gap!

vorghagen · « **Reply #129 on:** November 11, 2008, 02:55:30 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on November 10, 2008, 04:25:39 pm

That would cause there to be no 2008 tokens. Remember that they go back a few years. No one wants a gap!

Too true. I have a single token from each year so far mounted on my bezel with room for plenty more... I'd quickly get sick of explaining to people why there is a year missing.

Havok · « **Reply #130 on:** December 12, 2008, 12:50:53 am »

Well, are we going forward with this?

LordKaosNY · « **Reply #131 on:** February 01, 2009, 02:56:52 am »

What'll it take to make this happen??

fatfingers · « **Reply #132 on:** February 01, 2009, 03:42:51 pm »

I suspect something rather nasty happened in Santoro's life.

Santoro · « **Reply #133 on:** February 03, 2009, 11:00:36 pm »

Naw, I am here. My job has me working late every night and I am exhausted. I catch up on the weekends.

We will do these as 2009 tokens obviously. Sorry to drag it out after I specifically promised I wouldn't.

fatfingers · « **Reply #134 on:** February 04, 2009, 07:36:12 am »

Good. I'm glad to hear it's just work.

ChadTower · « **Reply #135 on:** March 05, 2009, 09:24:45 am »

Quote from: Santoro on February 03, 2009, 11:00:36 pm

Naw, I am here. My job has me working late every night and I am exhausted. I catch up on the weekends.

We will do these as 2009 tokens obviously. Sorry to drag it out after I specifically promised I wouldn't.

Maybe we could do TWO of these designs... label one as 2008 and one as 2009... since most of the issue tends to be with artwork and we have several great ready to go designs in hand here. That would give you a major jump on 2009 as well. It's not like the designs themselves have any direct connection to the year we mint them.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #136 on:** March 22, 2009, 08:34:27 pm »

I'd really like to order some. Is there any reason why we can't at least start making a decision on the designs?

dstone · « **Reply #137 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:59:03 pm »

*cough*

dstone · « **Reply #138 on:** April 13, 2009, 02:21:42 am »

So is this officially dead?

Santoro · « **Reply #139 on:** April 13, 2009, 07:28:10 pm »

OK OK.... Let's get this going again.

Here's what I have for the front. Please let me know of any errors - or if you'd rather move to the back thread.

Pixelhugger:

fatfingers Do you want to enter the others from post # 49 too?

xbakesx Do you want to enter the others from post #48, 50 too?

missioncontrol

dstone

sezzie Do you want to enter the others from post # 7 too?

(sez - I don't think the mint can do gradients... want to try this one without?

Bonesaw Ownage · « **Reply #140 on:** April 14, 2009, 02:05:11 pm »

I am new to the forum, how much longer do I have to submit a token design?

Thanks,

-JC

Encryptor · « **Reply #141 on:** April 14, 2009, 03:37:44 pm »

I know it would probably be a headache but I think it will suck if a year is skipped in making these.

Encryptor

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #142 on:** April 14, 2009, 04:15:15 pm »

Quote from: Santoro on April 13, 2009, 07:28:10 pm

OK OK.... Let's get this going again.

Best indicator yet that the economy is starting to turn around.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #143 on:** April 14, 2009, 05:01:25 pm »

Quote from: Encryptor on April 14, 2009, 03:37:44 pm

I know it would probably be a headache but I think it will suck if a year is skipped in making these.

I realize that some people would be upset by that (not me), and I can understand it, but 2009 is almost half over. Since I imagine Santoro's not exactly getting rich off of this endeavor, wouldn't doing these as 2008 tokens basically result in all subsequent years being similarly late as well due to the amount of time it takes to break even on a run?

Santoro · « **Reply #144 on:** April 14, 2009, 06:07:03 pm »

Quote from: Encryptor on April 14, 2009, 03:37:44 pm

I know it would probably be a headache but I think it will suck if a year is skipped in making these.

If it were just the headache, I'd do two runs anyway.

In the peak economic times we had a hard time getting enough demand for a full run of 10,000. We would never get demand today for 20,000 tokens at $50 for 200. That is pricing from 2 years ago, I will bet brass prices are way up, I may not be able to offer that pricing this year.

We can call these what we want - 2008/9, or we can omit the date completely... I am open to suggestions.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #145 on:** April 14, 2009, 07:07:38 pm »

I don't particularly care which way you go with them... but if anything I'd probably vote for omitting the date.

dstone · « **Reply #146 on:** April 14, 2009, 07:27:41 pm »

Personally, I'd prefer to keep the date. But that's just because I feel it's an integral part of my design.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #147 on:** April 14, 2009, 07:43:44 pm »

I wouldn't call that integral. Replace "2008" with another "BYOAC" and your front and back designs would look just as good, IMO.

dstone · « **Reply #148 on:** April 14, 2009, 11:22:31 pm »

Huh, I suppose so. Would keep it nice and symmetrical (I've got a weird thing about symmetry going right now).

TheShanMan · « **Reply #149 on:** April 15, 2009, 12:48:10 am »

Yep. That's what I was thinking too.

sez · « **Reply #150 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:47:56 am »

Quote from: Santoro on April 13, 2009, 07:28:10 pm

OK OK.... Let's get this going again.

Here's what I have for the front. Please let me know of any errors - or if you'd rather move to the back thread.

Pixelhugger:

fatfingers Do you want to enter the others from post # 49 too?

xbakesx Do you want to enter the others from post #48, 50 too?

missioncontrol

dstone

sezzie Do you want to enter the others from post # 7 too?

(sez - I don't think the mint can do gradients... want to try this one without?

Santoro, I would forget the one above, ie "one token to rule them all".

The ones attached (brought forward from post #7) are the ones I would prefer to submit.

Thanks
Sez.

tophatne1 · « **Reply #151 on:** April 20, 2009, 10:36:32 pm »

Quote from: dstone on April 14, 2009, 11:22:31 pm

Huh, I suppose so. Would keep it nice and symmetrical (I've got a weird thing about symmetry going right now).

It's called O.C.D.

Welcome to my world. Symmetry is my #1 issue with everything.

tophatne1 · « **Reply #152 on:** April 20, 2009, 10:40:30 pm »

shardian · « **Reply #153 on:** April 24, 2009, 10:56:45 am »

FYI, there is an article in the newest Gameroom Magazine stating that the big amusement centers are switching to plated zinc coins to cut cost. Is this an option to keep cost down at your coin maker? The article says existing standard brass coin presses can still be used.

Havok · « **Reply #154 on:** April 26, 2009, 10:30:20 pm »

So this is going to be the 2010 token, right?

dstone · « **Reply #155 on:** May 15, 2009, 09:42:42 pm »

Here's a generic version...

Havok · « **Reply #156 on:** May 15, 2009, 11:02:58 pm »

** Chirp ** Chirp **

dstone · « **Reply #157 on:** May 18, 2009, 09:14:38 am »

He's dead, Jim.

dstone · « **Reply #158 on:** June 24, 2009, 01:08:32 am »

vorghagen · « **Reply #159 on:** June 29, 2009, 04:48:25 am »

I think this needs a lot more than a bump to get going again. As you put it........ He's dead, Jim.

dstone · « **Reply #160 on:** July 03, 2009, 11:20:05 pm »

Yeah, perhaps I should switch those around.

I don't see this going much further. It's a shame, made such great strides just to stall out again.

Yvan256 · « **Reply #161 on:** July 04, 2009, 01:06:19 pm »

Great... now that I bought coin doors I find out that I need 0.984" mechs instead of 0.882".

Dr Zero · « **Reply #162 on:** August 10, 2009, 01:29:03 pm »

Any more news?


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