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'Mameing' Vista
ark_ader:
--- Quote from: Turnarcades on July 12, 2008, 07:57:13 pm ---I think using older OS's is a much better way to go for MAME cabs as newer OS's are too resource-draining.
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Damn right!
DOS 6.22 all the way baby! ;D
Jdurg:
--- Quote from: rlehm on July 14, 2008, 04:51:27 pm ---The "math" he keeps talking about is HEAVILY dependent on the machine. My math would support my claim in an older computer. So the "math" can be dependent on variables and really not worth talking about unless you specify a "variable (computer). If not, it's like saying Variable (x) + 3 = is more because I say (x) is equal to 6, where you have 5. So I w"win" by a value of (1). :blah:
I would rather trust a real world example, my own. For Vista to be awesome as claimed, you need a computer that costs a lot. I don;t think dumping that kind of money into this hobby when you could get a 200 dollar xp machine that'll do the job makes much sense. Anyone who goes out and buys a brand new Vista64 capable machine for Mame ONLY, needs help. Just my .02. Telling people they need a work horse that can run Vista64 really well is the worst advice I have ever heard. And I know you didn't say that, but many newbies will read that into it.
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Valid if you assume that the OP only wants to play old games and has no intentions at all of playing anything post 1994. You can't get a 64-bit version of DOS. I'm not saying that Vista is the only option. I'm just stating that you're better off going with a 64-bit OS otherwise you'd be wasting the power of any system you have. Not everybody plans on using an old, archaic, system. If the OP wants to spend money on a new computer for his cab, you are nothing but an ass-hole for calling him an "idiot".
rlehm:
--- Quote from: Jdurg on July 15, 2008, 04:24:42 pm ---Valid if you assume that the OP only wants to play old games and has no intentions at all of playing anything post 1994. You can't get a 64-bit version of DOS. I'm not saying that Vista is the only option. I'm just stating that you're better off going with a 64-bit OS otherwise you'd be wasting the power of any system you have. Not everybody plans on using an old, archaic, system. If the OP wants to spend money on a new computer for his cab, you are nothing but an ass-hole for calling him an "idiot".
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He said
--- Quote ---I'm running Vista, Business edition, and...
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So, this doesn't apply to him. He already has Vista. Where does it say he "wants to spend money?"I think you need to learn to read what is actually said. You are perverting what is "actually" said into some make believe senario that makes you feel you need to argue.
Trust me, it is not the OP who I think is the idiot. Saying that buying a brand new comp to play mame is a bad idea is far from outright calling someone an ass-hole. You're the one who resorted to that style of attack. Usually the first person to start throwing out names like that knows they are wrong and losing and can't handle it. I'd rather not discuss this anymore. Dude, if you want to go buy an expensive machine and say it is necessary, be my guest. But trust me, my 200 dollar xp machine actually does run games like third Strike BETTER than my Vista64. My friend also runs Vista 64 and mame at work. He actually also likes his old xp at home more. But you keep telling yourself you need the Vista 64, I'm not stopping you, never did. Just saying in "MY OWN EXPERIENCE" it's not better, just more costly. maybe in "YOUR EXPIRIENCE" it's better. I'm glad that it is. I'm glad you're happy. I'm glad you know what's better for YOU. Just don't tell me "IS" better over all. Because then you make a blanket statement, and you are WRONG! I "think" that things like video cards, memory, hard drive space etc are more of a useful upgrade than the OS. Just my "OPINION." I "think" that if I spent 300 upgrading those things, I'd get more for my money than I would from buying Vista. Just my "OPINION."
My advice, re-read this entire thread. And this time, read it for what it says, and not for what you can defy and argue about. You may be oppositional defiant. There is help for that. Calm down, no one took your candy. I disagree with you, and you disagree with me. Can you handle that? I can. I can live my whole life knowing you disagreed with me and be completely ok with it. My whole post was based on my “OPINION” and yours was supported by “FACT,” but yet, the fact is, it’s not fact in all cases. Try to understand the difference.
--- Quote ---You can't get a 64-bit version of DOS.
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--- Quote ---I have a copy of 64-bit XP on hand if I need to reformat
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please don't direct the DOS convo at me, have it with him. I never mentioned it. Re-read, it's really time to.
But, if you truly want to be helpful, tell him how to boot up right to a Mame FE. That's what he wanted to know. As you say, Vista 64 is better, here is your chance to back that up. I have this going in my xp machines. Never tried it with Vista, yet. Can it be done? I'd also like to know.
Paul Olson:
I think what jdburg was saying was that the only reason you would want to use vista would be for 64-bit support. The people who are running high end machines can take advantage of the newer mame code that is optimized for 64-bit and dual core processors. If you are not running high end (3-4gig core 2 duo) stick with the older OS's.
That is what I got out of the discussion anyway.
Some people will spend a lot of money on computer hardware for a mame machine. I wish I had the money to do it. Iwould rather run a cheaper computer for everyday computing, and spend more on my cab. Office and Firefox run well on just about anything, and I don't play 3d games on the PC anymore; 360 and wii seem better suited for that. At this point, the computer is probably the cheapest part of my cabinet.