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davidrfoley:
Thanks Goz, that was a useful and informative post.
Goz:
--- Quote from: davidrfoley on July 13, 2008, 04:58:09 pm ---Thanks Goz, that was a useful and informative post.
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You did say you preferred it. :cheers:
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: davidrfoley on July 13, 2008, 02:23:21 pm ---
I've started other threads to look for input for products that don't exist that people in this forum may want.
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But if the people in this forum are your self-admitted non-target audience, what difference would it then make what we/they thought of your product?
I'm trying to understand why you've come back. Really I am.
You've said the BYOAC community are "sponges" and "pirates", and have stated as much that we aren't even your target audience. Given your past statements of this community, your current statements about us not being of particular interest (the target audience thing), and your general tone and attitude in response to the issues brought up about - again, YOUR statements - why do you believe there is honestly anything that such a group of troglodytes has to offer you other than free brainstorming for ideas you've missed or hadn't considered?
You're coming to the people you shat on in order to create better products for....the people.....who aren't.....your....target, um... audience.
:dunno
Apparently you really DO see this community as THAT stupid that they'd want to help or share ideas with someone such as yourself. Either that, or you're so self-absorbed that you can't help but respond wherever your name pops up, and your natural "personality" just bubbles up to the top, kinda like a poo stew.
davidrfoley:
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on July 13, 2008, 05:46:21 pm ---But if the people in this forum are your self-admitted non-target audience, what difference would it then make what we/they thought of your product?
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I don't care if people don't like my product, but I do care when my products are misrepresented.
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on July 13, 2008, 05:46:21 pm ---I'm trying to understand why you've come back. Really I am.
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As I have previously stated. I was notified of a new thread where I was being bashed and false statements about me and products that I am involved in were being made. Since people take forums as gospel and factual, I need to make sure my side of the story is heard, otherwise the haters would just spew misinformation as fact.
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on July 13, 2008, 05:46:21 pm ---You've said the BYOAC community are "sponges" and "pirates"
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This is the type of nonsense and flat out misinformation that I have to combat. Show me a single quote where I called anyone a sponge or a pirate. It doesn't exist, and I never said that. To quote me as saying that is pure fiction.
I also don't lump everyone in this forum into the hater group, and there are many that do want to actually have useful and productive discussions about topics that matter to this forum. Just because you are so clouded and/or jaded that you can't be bothered to talk about useful things, doesn't mean others don't find this forum useful and wish to discuss topics of interest.
I've never put down this community, only individuals who seem to glorify misrepresentations, such as you have done in your posting just now for dramatic effect.
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: pinballwizard79 on July 12, 2008, 10:54:02 pm ---But I wanted to say that I don't think this place (BYOAC) is the target demographic for such an item.
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I decided to take the day away from the thread to see if I picked up any additional perspective and I did.
I noticed that the "haters", as Mr. Foley calls us, are not a bunch of MAME fanboys, but rather some of the more seasoned folks. They are folks who have 3,4,5,6,12,18 or 24 pins and vids, but just don't like the way that Mr. Foley has done business. I note that some of them are hobbyist/collectors and that some of them are folks who work/have worked in the industry.
I also find it interesting that the popular 2005 rage campaign against Mr. Foley (during which I commended him for posting here about his side of the story) was abandoned by the more casual MAMErs and that the people who object to him (myself included) actually are in the target demographic for the end product.
--- Quote from: pinballjim on July 12, 2008, 08:57:04 pm ---I dunno, guys, he legitimized emulation and got it mainstream with the UltraCade cabs.
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When you said that, I thought about another guy, who also brought emulation to the mainstream.
Clay Cowgill.
And Clay has done a ton of stuff that actually has been good for the community.
And he is a nice guy.
And he never went after vendors in the community.
And I will support him wherever I get the chance.
;)
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