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RayB:
OK OK people I humbly retract my post. David referred to "Ultraflop" machines which I interpreted as Ultrapin. Sorry for the confusion.

Source: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=81666.msg852391#msg852391

 :-\

Ken Layton:
I am of the age to have played REAL Gottlieb pinball machines not a video recreation or computer simulation. The only way to have the look, feel, and fun of playing a real pinball machine is to play a real pinball machine.

Currently I am restoring a 1964 Gottlieb Ship Mates 4 player pinball.

danny_galaga:

--- Quote from: markrvp on July 11, 2008, 03:12:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: davidrfoley on July 11, 2008, 02:18:53 pm ---Check out UltraStyle, its a freeware UI for MAME that was made after the UltraCade UI design.

--- End quote ---

It's a dead project.  I think the last version of MAME it worked with was .95 or so.

--- End quote ---

im still on the ultrastyle mailing list, and indeed there was an announcement not that long ago that someone was working on it again. i think for some people it wont matter if it only works up to version 95 or whatever. im happen with v78 for instance...

CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: davidrfoley on July 11, 2008, 10:55:54 am ---Does the phrase, do your homework ring a bell? 

If you actually read the replies from Aaron Giles, I tried several times to contact the MAME team for help in putting a stop to people that were building and selling MAME based cabinets with no permission and no licenses for the games.  After no response I filed the trademark in an effort to stop the unfair and illegal competition.  I also transferred the trademark over to the team on my own accord, even though legally I could have kept it.  If my effort was to steal the mark, I would have succeeded, and still owned it to this day. However, that wasn't my goal or attempt.  Aaron confirmed this and my actions led to the MAME team cleaning up the commercial use of MAME, and it was good for the team and the community. 

In order to understand this, you would have to educate yourself, and most people can't be bothered, instead they want to just run around and make uneducated flames about how evil I am.  If you are too lazy to bother to understand the facts about something, so be it. 

--- End quote ---

Now, I think we can safely say that this isn't an entirely accurate representation ... because I looked into it after publicly questioning people who had auctions pulled due to your reports on eBay (after I read your spiel and thought you were being totally honest).

As I recall, you had auctions pulled as if you owned the trademark when you didn't. Further, you had auctions pulled where the sellers were legitimate, had legitimate licenses (or at least permissions) for both MAME and the ROMS they were selling.

I'm not sure how you can conclude that it was good for the community -- to my, admittedly casual, monitoring, the sales of MAME cabs has not decreased, but it has spread from eBay to local ads and has actually increased (at least in my area).

As an aside, you would do better if you jsut stopped insulting everybody in the community who disagrees with your actions, past and present -- *you* are the one with the reputation problem. I speak here not just of the emulation crowd, but of the collector crowd, the pinball simulation crowd and even the ops that I spend time with say you have a taint on your name (even those who used to stock Ultracades).

I have not seen a characterization in this thread made by someone other than you that is inaccurate. You had absolutely no legitimate claim to a trademark for MAME and yet made application for it. Whatever your reasons were (and I don't have a problem with most of what you claim as your reasons), the "theft" characterization is more accurate that the representations that you made in your application and you have no right to dismiss those who say so.

I have no doubt that you will tell me how highly you are regarded amongst the upper echelons of the amusement industry, but when the folks on the ground don't want to buy the stuff that you are involved with, I don't see how your continued insults can help your cause.

To put it in perspective, your continued ragings make you sound a whole lot like Christian Stango.

He also did cool stuff and was a total ---tallywhacker---.

 :dunno





davidrfoley:
As I said, I'm not going to continue to argue the facts.  No one was pulled from eBay that had a legitimate license.  I know, I had letters from companies like Capcom and Midway authorizing me to police eBay.

here are a couple of examples:



and



Since you were not someone that was involved in any of it, you have no grounds to try and state the facts, all you are doing is perpetuating stories instead of actually being involved.  You aren't Aaron, and you don't speak for him.  Aaron confirmed that I had attempted to get them to do something and they didn't and he and I worked together to put in the proper protections. 

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