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wbassett:

--- Quote from: TeutonicDarkness on February 28, 2009, 12:31:42 am ---
--- Quote from: davidrfoley on February 27, 2009, 10:47:28 am ---No, it won't track like Terminator. Terminator didn't use a light gun. It used a joystick to play the game, it was just disguised as a light gun. The terminator gun was nothing more than a large joystick with a plastic housing.
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I think most of use here are quite aware of how The original
Terminator gun worked...

I really wouldn't care if it was a joystick, keyboard, mouse,
whatever, as long as it looked like a gun acted liked a gun;
and worked with more than just 2 games.

I think what we would like to see however is a solution
that would work with all games regardless!

--- Quote ---As I stated before, Light Guns can only track like that if you have a very bright (ie white) screen. If you put up a white background, a light gun can track the movement of the gun, however, when you hit a black area on the screen, it will not be able to track.

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You know I heard a lot of people complain about the flashing
of the ACT Lab Guns.. I really don't mind it at all If I can find
a solution that will track and support more than 2 games.. ;)

A Well I had hoped...

guess I'll just hold off for something else :(

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I think I know what you are asking... can you play any shooting game with it?

From what I understand talking to Les from Happ and from what Dave has explained is this will be exactly like what you experience at a real arcade playing games with real arcade guns because it is essentially a replacement board for existing arcade machines but will also work for our (MAME) applications. Will it work with everything? No, but nothing works perfectly with everything across the board.

For Games like Terminator, Jurasic Park and other joystick based 'guns', this probably won't be ideal. You can however pick up those 'guns' on ebay for dirt cheap. I snagged a pair of 'guns' for $29 including shipping.

I am still waiting for this board or the Sonic board to become available for my light gun games. Until then I am limping by with a first gen Topgun.

TeutonicDarkness:

Yeah I have considered getting some of those joystick based
guns off ebay...

However I just don't see why a solution could not be achieved?

The cursor tracks on most of these games with a mouse,
keyboard/ keyboard encoded joystick, even a gamepad.

Also there are the few people that got the LCD top guns to
work... that can confirm that these games will work
because it is seen as a mouse.

I just dont get it?
They work with a mouse, keyboard, joystick...

Why cant someone Just have one of the Above devices
encased in a gun shell ( With smooth cursor tracking ability)
and sell it?

davidrfoley:
because there is not enough demand for someone to invest the amount of money to build such a product. The MAME market finds that anything over $100 is "too expensive" and the cost for Terminator style guns in low quantity is several hundred dollars (I designed this type of gun system for the Aliens arcade game)

We are developing the sonic gun system that will work with any screen, and will work as a mouse or joystick. Once we get into production we are hoping to have a consumer version that will be cost effective for the BYOAC community to endorse and use.

TeutonicDarkness:

--- Quote from: davidrfoley on February 28, 2009, 12:14:04 pm ---because there is not enough demand for someone to invest the amount of money to build such a product. The MAME market finds that anything over $100 is "too expensive" and the cost for Terminator style guns in low quantity is several hundred dollars (I designed this type of gun system for the Aliens arcade game)

We are developing the sonic gun system that will work with any screen, and will work as a mouse or joystick. Once we get into production we are hoping to have a consumer version that will be cost effective for the BYOAC community to endorse and use.

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Ok I do realize that There are several different gun Type Games.
Some are actual Lightguns some are joystick mount guns,
etc.

I also realize there is not something that will work on everything..
( Some games are not even fully emulated )

If the Sonic gun will work with Terminator 2 style games,
and at least most of the others... And give me a smooth
working cursors that track as I point across the screen.

I would probably buy about 4 of them regardless of price... :)

davidrfoley:
Sonic Gun will work with any game that works with a lightgun, mouse or joystick. The SGS system can feed the PC with either Joystick or Mouse event info, which you can choose in setup.

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