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peterpepper:
We already have working solutions around:
* for crt: GunCon2 + Smog's GunCon2PC driver or Acorn's WinGun driver)
* for lcd: EMS TopGun II

The topic here is about using real arcade guns... isn't it? :)

Siris:

--- Quote from: davidrfoley on October 15, 2008, 02:52:00 pm ---Happ had working boards, unfortunately they never tested them with Happ Guns, just with Area 51 guns. We are taking a look at adding Area 51 gun support to the firmware now.

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Not sure I understand that, from what I can tell from the Happ site:

http://www.happcontrols.com/amusement/optical/96067000.htm

The guns interchange with a simple dongle to change connectors. So why would that need a firmware revision?

I haven't been around in years but just picked up an Area 51 Site 4 cab got it working beautiful with soft15khz, I was just getting my Act labs gun working on my VGA monitor to try on the 25".

So happened upon this thread, That adapter would be awesome for me, would love to see these Site 4 guns put to good use.

BTW: is the shoot off screen to reload in Area 51 working?

sWampy:

--- Quote from: peterpepper on December 30, 2008, 05:46:13 pm ---We already have working solutions around:
* for crt: GunCon2 + Smog's GunCon2PC driver or Acorn's WinGun driver)
* for lcd: EMS TopGun II

The topic here is about using real arcade guns... isn't it? :)

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Both those work like crap, I've wasted a ton of time and money trying to get both to work worth a crap.

As far real arcade guns, they are all very limited, work with only one type of monitor, one resolution, very limited ranges they work in, etc.

When the driver problems get ironed out with wii remotes, they can be retrofitted in to just about any real arcade gun case you can think of and actually work with modern monitors/computers.

Siris:
Just found out that soft15khz and the act labs gun is a no go. :/
I thought I read it would work with separate h/v sync???

davidrfoley:
Arcade Guns do not have any limitation on resolution or support a single monitor type. Real Arcade guns are only limited to CRT technology. They won't work with LCD's or Plasma's. We support several resolutions and monitors with the OptiGun board and Happ or Betson light guns. The range we can work with is from 320x200 15KHz to 1024x768 31KHz. Most Arcade CRTs run at one of three resolutions, 320x200 15KHz, 512x384 24.5KHz, or 640x480 31KHz. Some modern arcade tubes also support 800x600 31 KHz. The light guns themselves have no concept of resolution, they are merely an optical sensor that picks up where the gun is located on the screen at the time the trigger is pulled.

As for the statement about retrofitting new technology into the old housings, that is correct. We are currently using the existing Happ plastics for the Sonic Gun System testing and have built our PCB's in the same footprint as the current optical PCB's so that the housings can be used with no tool changes to existing plastics. We built a small plastic barrel insert to allow for focusing of the beam inside the gun where the lens used to be placed.

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