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TPB:
wbasset,

This is indeed great news.

Nothing beats the feel or quality of a Genuine Arcade gun.



--- Quote from: wbassett on June 11, 2008, 04:27:26 pm ---
Les was fantastic to talk to and did tell me that they are supposed to be getting an interface from a different company to check out that will allow their arcade guns to be connected directly to a PC.  He sent me some information and it looks pretty good from the overview pdf.


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Jdurg:
Wow.  This sounds incredible!  It's a gun interface, an audio amplifier, AND a video converter.  So would this device make it so that I wouldn't need to purchase an ArcadeVGA card, but could instead just plug my computer video output into this thing and it would convert it the proper signal for a real Arcade Monitor? 

If that's the case, I see $150 being a VERY reasonable price considering what it does.
wbassett:

--- Quote from: Timstuff on June 12, 2008, 03:22:54 am ---This seems like a good option if you are using a genuine arcade monitor, which many people who would actually be using real arcade guns likely would be. However, there's still that unfilled niche for people who are using TVs and LCD monitors, who would like to get their hands on an arcade-quality light gun, but are forced to settle for the likes of the LCD Topgun. That's not a dis against the Topgun, but compared to the real guns that I play House of the Dead, Time Crisis 2, and Jurassic Park with at the arcade, it nowhere near as durable or sturdy feeling, and the kickback is totally weaksauce.

Maybe the ideal solution for someone like me, would be if someone could make a conversion kit for the topgun. If there was a way to open the thing up, put it in a beefier, sturdier, more "arcade-like" casing, and possibly throw in a more powerful motor for the kickback, that would be awesome. I don't know how complicated it'd be to transfer the guts of a Topgun into a new casing (or swapping out the motors, for that matter), but it seems like it'd be a worthy endeavor for any entrepreneur with the resources to do it.

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Tim it will work with a PC monitor too.  Off hand I'd say it wouldn't work with a TV though and we definitely know it won't work with any non-CRT technology.  It still isn't an all in one ultimate solution, and in my personal opinion there really isn't any one setup that is.  Some come close, but each have their pros and cons.

As far as gutting the TopGun and transferring it to a different gun casing, sure anything is possible.  People on this forum pull off the impossible everyday!

The only real weak area of the gun itself in my opinion is the recoil.  It could be a tad heavier just for that 'rugged feel' but you know what?  We really don't want a heavy gun, but like you said a beefy and sturdy gun. Too much heft and you wouldn't want to use it for hours on end. 

When mine wasn't working I did take it apart to see if it was something I could fix, and if I couldn't then I would have gutted it to see what all was in there.  The gun is pretty packed inside.  The circuit board doesn't look cheap and flimsy.  What really makes the TG look a bit cheap is the recoil slide.  If I were EMS I probably would drop the whimpy recoil for a solid body gun with a thumper or rumble pack in it, but before even doing that it still has to perform.    The new drivers sound really good, now if they can do something about those ugly cords on the LED sensor bars!  So yes you probably could transfer it to another gun.  Airsoft would be out unless it were a rifle because the board is bigger than what most pistols have room inside, but... Happcontrols sells arcade gun but keep in mind that is still going to set you back $40 or more.

This board if it pans out will give a viable option and competition to ActLabs, and as I have said in other threads, competition isn't always a bad thing.  The TopGun still doesn't have any commercial competition, so it's up to them to step up to the plate and become the standard they want to be.  They have to keep on their toes because the Wii mote does work and as far as accuracy, the people I have talked to that use it all say it is very accurate.  The number one problem with it right now for Mame is it needs a PC driver.  When that is developed, then there will be another viable option for LCD and all types of monitors.

As far as CRT users, specifically arcade CRTs and PC monitors, this is a very exciting option.

wbassett:

--- Quote from: TPB on June 12, 2008, 09:47:56 am ---wbasset,

This is indeed great news.

Nothing beats the feel or quality of a Genuine Arcade gun.



--- Quote from: wbassett on June 11, 2008, 04:27:26 pm ---
Les was fantastic to talk to and did tell me that they are supposed to be getting an interface from a different company to check out that will allow their arcade guns to be connected directly to a PC.  He sent me some information and it looks pretty good from the overview pdf.


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TPB all the information I have right now is what I posted in the first post.  Those are the specs of the new board.  This isn't from ROR3, it is a totally different company.

I transfered all the info directly from the PDF to here, can I put a file attachment here in the forum?  If so I can put the actual PDF up, I just don't know how and didn't know I could.
wbassett:

--- Quote from: Jdurg on June 12, 2008, 09:59:38 am ---Wow.  This sounds incredible!  It's a gun interface, an audio amplifier, AND a video converter.  So would this device make it so that I wouldn't need to purchase an ArcadeVGA card, but could instead just plug my computer video output into this thing and it would convert it the proper signal for a real Arcade Monitor? 

If that's the case, I see $150 being a VERY reasonable price considering what it does.

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Honestly I don't know and can't answer that and right now neither can Les because the board still has to be tested and run through its paces.

I interpreted it as the board accepts and passes through the video signal for sync purposes and supports the resolutions listed, but I don't think it converts to different resolutions.  You'd still need a card that supports whatever resolution your monitor uses.  It is nice that in addition to PC standard VGA connectors it also has arcade low/med resolution molex connectors.  Now what would be cool, but I seriously doubt the board does this or could handle it would be if you could plug in a VGA connector from the video card (set to arcade resolution either through native settings or with Powerstip) and then use the molex connector out to the monitor.  My bet is it's VGA to VGA, molex to molex...

We'll know more once we get our hands on one.  IF it does everything it says, it might be a nice little gem especially for someone building a new cab.  It sounds like it basically will handle most (but not all) of the common types of controller inputs in addition to supporting actual arcade light gun hardware.  Everyone has said they wished there was an easy way to connect an actual arcade gun to a MAME system, this may be that ticket.
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