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ahofle:
Hehe, did anyone notice when he was stocking his hot sauce at that store, he moved the competitor's sauce to the back and put his in front of it?  :laugh2:
I mean, unless he was specifically asked to do some of these things (answering the phone with "world record headquarters" for example), then he is definitely a ---tallywhacker---. 


--- Quote from: GinsuVictim on June 06, 2008, 10:50:17 am ---It was not an official submission. Walter put up the score without Bill's permission, then took down the score within 48 hours. The record reverted back to Steve Wiebe. Billy submitted the original tape without any tracking issues, which was scrutinized and submitted as the record.

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Huh?  I specifically remember Walter asking him on the phone something to the effect of "I just want to confirm that you are officially submitting this score" to which he presumably replies yes.  At that point he hangs up and updates the website.  ???

Ginsu Victim:

--- Quote from: ahofle on June 13, 2008, 11:19:07 am ---Hehe, did anyone notice when he was stocking his hot sauce at that store, he moved the competitor's sauce to the back and put his in front of it?  :laugh2:
I mean, unless he was specifically asked to do some of these things (answering the phone with "world record headquarters" for example), then he is definitely a ---tallywhacker---. 


--- Quote from: GinsuVictim on June 06, 2008, 10:50:17 am ---It was not an official submission. Walter put up the score without Bill's permission, then took down the score within 48 hours. The record reverted back to Steve Wiebe. Billy submitted the original tape without any tracking issues, which was scrutinized and submitted as the record.

--- End quote ---

Huh?  I specifically remember Walter asking him on the phone something to the effect of "I just want to confirm that you are officially submitting this score" to which he presumably replies yes.  At that point he hangs up and updates the website.  ???

--- End quote ---

If I recall correctly, you can hear Billy on the phone, but he doesn't give a reply. Did Walter take his silence as a yes?

ahofle:

--- Quote from: GinsuVictim on June 13, 2008, 11:35:47 am ---If I recall correctly, you can hear Billy on the phone, but he doesn't give a reply. Did Walter take his silence as a yes?

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I don't know or remember the exact details, but it seemed like a pretty damned straightforward question to me.  Even if the answer was not shown in the film, I'm not sure why Walter would have updated the website right after that basic question if it was not somehow answered affirmatively.  Regardless, it's a pretty irrelevant 'inaccuracy' as the same video WAS eventually used to get the high score (just not a copy), whereas Steve's video was rejected.

massive88:

--- Quote from: ahofle on June 13, 2008, 12:00:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: GinsuVictim on June 13, 2008, 11:35:47 am ---If I recall correctly, you can hear Billy on the phone, but he doesn't give a reply. Did Walter take his silence as a yes?

--- End quote ---

I don't know or remember the exact details, but it seemed like a pretty damned straightforward question to me.  Even if the answer was not shown in the film, I'm not sure why Walter would have updated the website right after that basic question if it was not somehow answered affirmatively.  Regardless, it's a pretty irrelevant 'inaccuracy' as the same video WAS eventually used to get the high score (just not a copy), whereas Steve's video was rejected.

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Wha?  Have you guys read the Twin Galaxies statements?  The videotape at funspot was for submittal, and Walter personally approved it as shown in the movie.

What the movie didnt show was that the score was up there for no more than 48 hours before it was taken down, and Walter aknowledged that it was a mistake to ever put it up in the first place.  His score in that video was never after that officially recognized.

Its been a while, but I think theres an email from TG at the end of the movie apologizing to Steve, and I think its that email that was actually sent after Funspot apologizing for posting the score and all while he was there.

http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11027

shmokes:
Yeah, but what you don't seem to realize is that the email doesn't erase all the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- they did.  They didn't send the email because they became better people.  They sent it because after everything Steve did, there was no way they could continue treating him the way they had, no matter how much they'd like to.  I mean, WTF, they had a policy of accepting scores based on videotape.  That one guy's job was to review videotapes for just that purpose.  But when they got one that showed Weibe beating Mitchell's score they suddenly changed the policy just for that tape.  They even sent people to his garage to verify the integrity of the board he was playing on.  One has to wonder why they went to this trouble since finding absolutely nothing wrong with his board led to the conclusion that his tape could not be accepted.  WTF?

Regardless of whether they pulled Mitchell's taped score off the website after 48 hours, it was an unethical, petty slap in the face to Weibe that they put it up at all.  Did Walter send anybody to Mitchell's house to inspect the board of the machine he was playing on?  Did his tape show signs of cheating (oh, wait, it actually did . . .)?  There was one simple dynamic at work there, the Twin Galaxy judges (one of whom was Billy Mitchell himself) didn't want to see Billy Mitchell lose his #1 ranking.  They set up a bunch of artificial hoops that nobody ever had to jump through besides Steve Weibe, hoping that he would just disappear (and if not for the Guinness thing it probably would have worked).  Once he finally jumped through all of the hoops they practically had no choice but to apologize.  I would hardly call that magnanimous.

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