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Level42:
I think it's a very nice game. I've liked it ever since playing the (great) conversion on my Atari 8-bit computer.

I agree that it's a shame to convert a Popeye to a DK just for that reason. On the other hand, most Popeye's are converted DK's..... that's the whole thing with the Nintendo's right ? They were very quick with the kit concept.

But how about Radar Scope ? If you'd follow your "rules" then all (most ?) red DK's should be converted back to Radar Scope. Apart from wether it's a nice game or not (it's not as bad as suggested by the bad sales. Little known fact: it had speech, where did that go when they created DK ?) for originality's sake, it should be a RS.

But......it's really not a classic. Parts are very very, close to unavailable and well......DK is MORE, a LOT more fun than RS.

It's the same dilema I have now with my Mario Bros in Radar Scope cab.....I personaly would like to change it to a Kong, but I like Mario too. I think the whole DK artwork set was designed for the red cabinet (hence all the red tints in there) and it looks best in a red cab. However, it would be a shame to spoil the minty side-art and other parts.

I've decided to finish the conversion to MB for now. Maybe, over some years, I may change it into a Kong after all....


O, and I'm looking for a Popeye PCB (or even the compete kit) since I'd love to be able to play that in that cab too.
Only needs a different restrictor plate and two extra microswitches :)
Ginsu Victim:
I've always loved the game.

In the past, I tried talking a few people out of converting Popeye cabinets to DK, but no one listens. I just stopped trying...
GAJoe:

--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 03, 2008, 01:28:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: GAJoe on June 03, 2008, 12:45:48 pm ---I'm just considering the ethical/moral whatever question of turning a working Popeye or a mostly intact Popeye into a Donkey Kong just because everyone likes Donkey Kong more.   

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Oh geez.... seems like a good enough reason to me. Restore 1 pseudo classic for a real classic. It's not like Popeye's are near extinction or anything.

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I'm not bleeding heart over it, it was just something I was thinking about.  That no one seems to mind this conversion so much, where as converting some games gets people all up in arms.

And I agree about the Radar Scope thing, if people wanted to purely convert everything back into what it started as all those original DKs should be Radar Scopes, all the Asteroids should be Lunar Landers, and so on.  That would be a ridiculous thing to do.

I'm not making up rules or anything along those lines, I'm just trying to understand the rules that get applied in these situations all the time.  Sometimes people say don't convert that to anything but what it started as, some people say definitely convert it because the old game sucked, and others say convert to anything you want, good or bad, so long as you can roll back the changes.
JeepMonkey:
I have a cab that was born a Popeye.  It had been converted to a Mania Challenge that did not work whe I got it.  The only thing original (or close) still in the cab is the monitor.  I am considering making it a MAME or a DK.

I do not feel bad about this as it was copletely gutted and converted when I got it.  If anything I am restoring it to a nice classic game.  Personally I have never been a big fan of Popeye or Mario Brothers.  I am not restoring this to sell it, rather to add it to my collection.

Me personally, I do not care if someone took a not working DK and converted it to a Popeye or vice versa.  They are the same thing other than art and main board.
ahofle:

--- Quote from: GAJoe on June 03, 2008, 02:45:33 pm ---I'm not bleeding heart over it, it was just something I was thinking about.  That no one seems to mind this conversion so much, where as converting some games gets people all up in arms.

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I tend to not hear people 'up in arms' about converting one classic to another (especially if both games shared the same cabinet like in your case).  I think the complaints really surface when people MAME a perfectly good classic, or put pink sideart on a perfectly good Smash TV, etc.
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