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Does taking drugs enhance artist creativity?
shardian:
And then you have people like Michael Jackson - he doesn't even need drugs to ---fudgesicle--- up his career! ;D
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: shardian on May 23, 2008, 03:48:23 pm ---And then you have people like Michael Jackson - he doesn't even need drugs to ---fudgesicle--- up his career! ;D
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...and now his life is miserable and he can't create a hit.
Jdurg:
--- Quote from: TOK on May 23, 2008, 09:11:38 am ---
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on May 23, 2008, 07:16:26 am ---
--- Quote from: shmokes on May 23, 2008, 02:15:11 am --- People with perfect lives have very little to write about. Most great artists, whether musicians, writers, stand-up comics, etc., are pretty miserable in one way or another.
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i think thats the important part. look how freaky heironomus bosch or salvador dalis paintings were, how beautiful van goghs were. or how amazing mozart and beethoven were. all they had to console their angst was booze...
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Opiates were also available and uncontrolled. There is no telling what these guys may have been using. For sure, neither was a stranger to personal struggle and depression, even after becoming famous.
Check this out. This is after Motzart and Beethoven's era, but is still rather jarring to see.
Got a headache? Insist on genuine Bayer Heroin! ;D
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Those aren't all that shocking. They were developed in a timeframe where long term testing and safety studies on medicines and OTC compounds were not required. Now a days, any medication intended for Human Use must be clinically tested and approved by the FDA, or various other regulatory agencies. So these days, you aren't going to see new medicines come out without severely long, and expensive, testing. Creating medicine ain't cheap. ;D
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: TOK on May 23, 2008, 09:11:38 am ---
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on May 23, 2008, 07:16:26 am ---
--- Quote from: shmokes on May 23, 2008, 02:15:11 am --- People with perfect lives have very little to write about. Most great artists, whether musicians, writers, stand-up comics, etc., are pretty miserable in one way or another.
--- End quote ---
i think thats the important part. look how freaky heironomus bosch or salvador dalis paintings were, how beautiful van goghs were. or how amazing mozart and beethoven were. all they had to console their angst was booze...
--- End quote ---
Opiates were also available and uncontrolled. There is no telling what these guys may have been using. For sure, neither was a stranger to personal struggle and depression, even after becoming famous.
Check this out. This is after Motzart and Beethoven's era, but is still rather jarring to see.
Got a headache? Insist on genuine Bayer Heroin! ;D
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i know what you are saying, but yeah-nah....
bosch died in 1516...
those arty people who used opiates are well chronicalled because there was less stigma attached than now. samuel taylor colleridge for instance. there is absolutely no suggestion that mozart or beethoven took opiates to enhance creativity...
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