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Xiaou2:


  Facts?  Where?

  Ohh,  you mean those Assumptions that you call facts right?

 You assume that Google results are fact.  You have no proof of it.   Did you work there?
Did you supervise the Drives there?   Did you hand deliver the drives from the factories
to the Google plant?

 
 On the other hand...


 Anyone who thinks that heat does not effect life expectancies on both electrical and mechanical equipment
needs to go back and hit the books.


  Ive said all I need.  Believe whatever you wish.  But dont tell me that I have to take
Assumptions for facts.



CheffoJeffo:

* CheffoJeffo tosses HoopZ a beer and asks him to pass the popcorn as we watch the X credibility issue unfold again

Turnarcades:

Mount the drive using my trusted friend - hot melt glue. It's super-strong, super flexible and bonds to almost anything. Speakers, hard drives, you name it it will work, and dampens noise, disipates heat etc.

Oh, and on another note, I would advise using a mechanical drive over flash any day, particularly for a cabinet. I experimented with flash memory and found they do not like to be used as a hard drive. Eventually the normally insignificant read/write cycles of save states, hi-scores etc. corrupt the drive. At most I'd say go for a 2.5" drive as they are much quieter.

patrickl:


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 15, 2008, 05:10:01 pm ---Facts?  Where?

  Ohh,  you mean those Assumptions that you call facts right?
--- End quote ---
Are you talking to me? I never even used the word "fact".


--- Quote ---You assume that Google results are fact.
--- End quote ---
Well I do take their word over yours yes.

Anyway, if not to take Googles word, then what is the alternative? Obviously one cannot test this at home and there are very few reports like this actually testing the correlation between temperature and failure rate. Most studies only look at the failure rates and have no data on operating temperatures of the disks. Seagate wrote a report looking at environment temperatures (which would relate in some way to drive temperature), but their research is so obviously flawed (their MTBF estimates are nowhere near actual numbers found in usage tests) and done under unrealistic conditions, that I rather take Google's word over Seagate's word.

Funny thing is that Seagate tests their disks by running them for a month in an oven set at 42 degrees Celsius. So their tech people are basically building disks to run more reliable at this temperature (and then assume that at lower temperatures it will be more reliable too). Now low and behold, modern hard disks are running most reliable at around 40 degrees Celsius.


--- Quote ---Anyone who thinks that heat does not effect life expectancies on both electrical and mechanical equipment needs to go back and hit the books.
--- End quote ---
Again, are you talking to me? I never said "heat" (or temperature) had no impact. Just that under normal conditions, Google found that it isn't the main cause of harddisk failure. I also said that running them too cool was shown to be more harmful than running them slightly hot. I even mentioned a specific temperature range where Google found their disks to most reliable. Last but not least I said that running hard disks over their operational temperature limit (around 55 or 60 degrees celsius) is likely to destroy them quickly. So I actually mentioned alot of correlations between drive failures and temperature.


--- Quote ---Ive said all I need.  Believe whatever you wish.  But dont tell me that I have to take Assumptions for facts.
--- End quote ---
Actually taking assumptions for facts is all you do. It's about be time that you took actual facts for facts.

Hoopz:

* Hoopz passes the popcorn and the half eaten bucket of wings to Cheffo, then looks around for the footrest. 

* Hoopz also keeps an eye out for any crazy karate dudes who may be looking to waylay the smartasses.

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