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danny_galaga:

--- Quote from: Wade on May 01, 2008, 04:05:46 pm ---

How many of these old cars have you driven for an extended period, anyway?  I'm curious.  No one I've known has been able to do that without expensive maintenance and relatively frequent repairs.  I drove older cars for most of the past 15 years, and it's been a real pain in the butt and cost me a lot of money.

Wade

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well, like i say, some old cars (like my VW) hold their value (as little as that is). i paid $2500 and right now i could get more for it im sure.

rough chronology of my beater lifestyle:

1986- 1968 ford cortina mk II. paid $150 for it. spent maybe $200 or so to get it roadworthy (needed a carb, generator and tyres). sold it a couple of years later for $800 (",)

cost -$650

1988- triumph saloon (forgotten the year, about 1975). bought from a dealer for $1999 or something cheesy like that. kept that for about 4 years. a number of repairs on that (like i say, i learnt a lot form that POS  ;D). replaced all 6 universals several times. rebuilt the engine. rear-ended someone and had to replace radiator. i think i sold it for about $500 unregistered.

cost +$3500 (approx)

1990ish- i also bought a PE250 enduro bike from the wreckers for $250. minor problem to fix. spent several hundred to get it roadworthy. rode it for about two years. eventually got defected for noise (im still pissed about that, it was loud, but not as loud as a harley- how many of THOSE do you see get done for noise?). sold it unregistered for $600.

cost break even

1991ish- bought a 1973 holden torana (the beast). paid $2800 i think. drove it for about ten years. by then my beater mojo was strong  ;D . usual running repairs over that period of time including two batteries, at least one set of brakes. also had the rack and pinion rebuilt as it was getting a bit loose. rebuilt the engine after about five years. i couldnt bear o sell it when i bought a new car, so it sat under the house for the last five years. sold it for $500 unregistered.

cost +$4000(approx)

around the same time i had a beach buggy. that wasnt much of a car, but i bought it more for the fun of it rather than transport. it was always a second car.

1996- in canada i bought a 1978 ford mustang for $1050. had to replace alternator. fuel filter on the road. power steering died on me in the car park at the grand canyon, arizona. grrrr. drove it like that back to phoenix. mechanic said cant get non power rack for that model. would be $600 USD to rebuild, which was about what the car cost! however, HIS beater mojo was strong too. he could see i was an impoverished backpacker, he stretched a fan belt onto the water pump and alternator to by-pass the sterring pump and pumped up the tyres real hard  ;D. $35 for that... sold it to another backpacker unregistered for $250 on proviso i got to keep the horse emblem off the grille.

cost +$1000 (approx)

2001- new car. $11500. doesnt count for this list. just thought id put it in. drove it for about 3 years. sold it for $2500. talk about depreciation!

2005- 1973 VW (the master). $2500. a few basic things needed which were expected for the car, like new brake pads. replaced the starter. inexplicable problem cost about $400 (fuel liine prob). full tune up this year (will do it every second year i think) about.$200.

cost +$3200 (approx)

so, what have i spent in 22 years? roughly $11000. that includes owning two cars in two countries at one time (",). obviously this doesnt account for inflation etc. thats getting too complicated to work out and patrickl already has my head reeling with all these figures  :dizzy:  ;D

edit: shardian is the king though. 2 grand in 19 years  :o

AtomSmasher:

--- Quote from: paigeoliver on May 01, 2008, 06:37:52 pm ---Invariably a zero interest auto loan is a promotion that is offered as a choice amongst several options and one of those options is a big factory rebate check. So yes you still pay extra for a zero percent loan.

Also, people with zero percent loans also tend to pay sticker price (or close to) for their vehicles due to dealer shenanigans ("The deal with the zero percent is this car at this price only") and general payment thinking.




--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on May 01, 2008, 12:02:25 am ---
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on April 30, 2008, 11:45:11 pm --- therefore a loan really puts the cost of a new car vs old in a different light. where someone gets a loan for a car (new OR old) there is no debate. you will pay through the nose.

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Unless your like me and get a $0 down 0% interest loan  ;D

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I could of taken $1000 off the price instead of 0% interest loan, so yes I could of saved a little money if I paid cash, you got me, but I'm still not paying through the nose, as danny put it.

Also, the 0% interest loan is a promotion done by the manufacturers loan company, not by the dealer, so there are no "dealer shenanigans" around them because they have nothing to gain from giving you a higher interest loan.

You seem to be a glass half empty type of guy and that makes me sad.

shardian:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on May 02, 2008, 01:33:48 am ---edit: shardian is the king though. 2 grand in 19 years  :o

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10 years actually - I'm only 26.

There was some concurrent ownership going on near the end of the list. My wife drove the 740 for several years before I took it over full time.

paigeoliver:
I am totally aware that the manufacturer offers the promotion not the dealer, that doesn't keep the dealership from ripping people off in conjunction with the manufacturer promotions.


--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on May 02, 2008, 02:48:00 am ---
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on May 01, 2008, 06:37:52 pm ---Invariably a zero interest auto loan is a promotion that is offered as a choice amongst several options and one of those options is a big factory rebate check. So yes you still pay extra for a zero percent loan.

Also, people with zero percent loans also tend to pay sticker price (or close to) for their vehicles due to dealer shenanigans ("The deal with the zero percent is this car at this price only") and general payment thinking.




--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on May 01, 2008, 12:02:25 am ---
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on April 30, 2008, 11:45:11 pm --- therefore a loan really puts the cost of a new car vs old in a different light. where someone gets a loan for a car (new OR old) there is no debate. you will pay through the nose.

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Unless your like me and get a $0 down 0% interest loan  ;D

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I could of taken $1000 off the price instead of 0% interest loan, so yes I could of saved a little money if I paid cash, you got me, but I'm still not paying through the nose, as danny put it.

Also, the 0% interest loan is a promotion done by the manufacturers loan company, not by the dealer, so there are no "dealer shenanigans" around them because they have nothing to gain from giving you a higher interest loan.

You seem to be a glass half empty type of guy and that makes me sad.

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AtomSmasher:

--- Quote from: paigeoliver on May 02, 2008, 01:27:11 pm ---I am totally aware that the manufacturer offers the promotion not the dealer, that doesn't keep the dealership from ripping people off in conjunction with the manufacturer promotions.

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If a dealer ever tried to use a manufacturer promotion as leverage to get me to somehow pay more for the car, then I would go to a different dealer and probably notify the manufacturer of the dealers scumbag tactics.  I went to over a half dozen dealerships when looking for a car, and I think every new car I looked at had some sort of incentive interest rate and not once did a dealer try to use that as leverage.

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