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shmokes:

--- Quote from: pinballjim on April 07, 2008, 10:17:31 am ---
Dude, you really gotta get off my back lately.


--- End quote ---

Um . . . sorry.  That's just me.  I don't even know what you're talking about.  The only other thread I can even think of that I'm talking to you in is the one in which you jumped on me about Grim Fandango.  If that's the only thread we're talking in, then I REALLY don't know what you're talking about.

shmokes:

--- Quote from: shardian on April 07, 2008, 11:21:46 am ---
Environmentalists will never let that happen.

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LMAO.  You, sir, have never been to the Nevada desert.   :laugh2:

Anyway, environmentalists are fully aware that the world is faced with choices, and going without power isn't one of them.  Choosing between a solar farm in the Nevada desert, and a coal plant anywhere, or a dam anywhere, or a nuclear plant anywhere, is an easy choice to make. 

patrickl:
If not simply on the buildings, then there must be some space available in the Sahara. Now wouldn't that be cool if we all got dependent on the electric power coming from the Sahara.

shmokes:
The Sahara would be no good.  Every time there was a wind storm the solar panels would be buried under feet of sand.   ;D

patrickl:
Hmm could be.

I wish they would find a way to make electricity from rain. The Netherlands would start making some serious money then  :P

I looked into getting solar panels for my new house. There is a new subsidising action going on in the Netherlands, but even after subsidies it's still economically disappointing. A standard installation would be about 3000 euro giving a 100 euro savings per year. There would be a 600 euro subsidy so it would take 24 years to break even (if prices don't rise). With a solar heater it was even worse (50 euro savings per year on a 2000 to 3000 investment). Other problem is that my biggest roof surface is facing north so it wouldn't work anyway. Still, I wasn't really impressed with the economical savings of current commercial solutions.

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