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I like a good hockey fight, but this is ridiculous!

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ChadTower:

--- Quote from: ahofle on March 29, 2008, 10:38:57 am ---Same reason fights don't happen often in basketball or baseball where there is even less equipment to get in the way. 

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Fights do happen in baseball and basketball - a lot more often than in football.  Basketball fights are the worst because those guys have no protection and they're giants.  One well landed punch in the NBA can cave in a guy's face - ask Rudy Tomjanovich about that.

In football the aggression is out in the open - there is nothing to hide at all - so the guys just accept quite an amount of stuff other athletes won't.  They accept it because they know the opportunity will be there within the next couple of minutes to reciprocate.

shardian:
Fighting is encouraged in hockey by the fact that you only get a 5 minute penalty - one that doesn't even put your team down a man. You fight in any other sport, and you are gone for 1/4 of the season, lose that pay, AND get fined. Imagine how many fights there would be if fighting in football only got you a 1 quarter suspension. Just like hockey, teams would bring on a guy just to beat the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of a key player on the other team.

Look at even Soccer in the rest of the world. One dirty hit, and you are gone for the game AND the next one. In hockey, you get 2 minutes for possibly ending someone's career.

CCM:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on March 29, 2008, 09:16:18 am ---
Why did no one mention that one of the blue team members hit a ref?  The ref comes over to try and intervene and a player knocks him totally out of the picture rather than defend his own goalie who's taking an ass beating.  That makes no sense to me.  Why doesn't the blue bench completely clear while this guy is down and not defending himself?  Something is completely wrong in this clip.  I played a lot of hockey and saw a lot of fights - I have never seen a player get beat like that on the ice without someone helping him.

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In the clip I watched it looked to me that the blue player was trying to get to the goalie, but the ref had a hold of the front of his jersey and pulled him down on top of him.

It didn't look to me at all that the blue player was intentionally going after the ref and ignoring the beating his goalie was taking.

CCM:

--- Quote from: shardian on March 29, 2008, 01:32:04 pm ---Just like hockey, teams would bring on a guy just to beat the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of a key player on the other team.


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Rarely (if ever) do the true fighters in hockey go after the other teams key players.  You're not gonna see Georges Laraque just start pummeling Jason Spezza, your gonna see him square off against Chris Neil. 

That's pretty much the reason that teams have fighters, to keep the skilled players safe.  If you take a cheap shot at Crosby or Hossa, you know you're gonna have to deal with Laraque later in the game.

On the other hand there are plenty of dirty players in the league (Chris Simon) who will intentionally try to hurt someone.

There is a huge difference between the fighters that will fight the other teams goons and flat out dirty players that try to injure.

Now, all that being said, the content of that video is disgusting.  Patrick Roy should be banned for life for encouraging his son (or any player) to act that way.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: CCM on March 29, 2008, 02:51:01 pm ---Rarely (if ever) do the true fighters in hockey go after the other teams key players. 

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Not as much in modern hockey, but anyone who grew up watching Bobby Orr will tell you, his knees may as well have had actual crosshairs on them.  Cam Neely, who was both a top sniper and the best fighter in the NHL at the time, used to take cheapshot after cheapshot and it definitely shortened his career.  Eric Lindros' career died a prolonged death after guys kept going after his head.  The list goes on and on - many key stars do end up injured as the result of cheapshots to take them out.

And of course there is the time after scoring a key goal in the playoffs, injuring him badly and basically ending the Islanders' season.

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