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SavannahLion:

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--- Quote from: SavannahLion on May 04, 2008, 01:16:50 pm --- I'm not debating what should have or shouldn't have been done. I'm debating that it's pointless for anyone to state that these pilots should have lost their permit.

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Welcome to the internet.  Is this your first time online?     :P

Pointless debates are the staple of any online community.   ;D

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---fudgesicle---... you got me there.  :laugh2: :laugh2:

Level42:

--- Quote from: SavannahLion on May 04, 2008, 01:16:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: Samstag on May 04, 2008, 04:23:14 am ---
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on May 04, 2008, 03:18:24 am ---In the end, how can we pass judgment a 1:05 video about a situation we know very little about? Maybe the pilot had to land there. Maybe the plane was carrying some kind of life saving cargo. Was it a private or commercial plane? What kind of experience did the pilots have? What lead up to that video? What happened afterwards? How "heavy" is a heavy storm? Would it be the same kind of "heavy" storm that Alaskan bush pilots are known to contend with or is it the kind of "heavy" storm that causes an desert airport to shutdown due to a mere 2" of snowfall?

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You can look up the answers to those questions if you'd like to argue based on fact rather than ignorance.  ;)

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You've got to be kidding, thank you for missing the point entirely. This is really an armchair discussion that holds no bearing on whether the pilot in question keeps or loses his license. I'm not arguing about anyone discussing on facts vs ignorance. Feel free to spend hours, weeks or months digesting all the facts about this incident and why the pilot kept his license. In the end, what does it get you? Congratulations, a whole lot of information about this one incident. Those hours could have been better spent... I don't know, working on your WIP, earning a bit of cash, hell, even learning to fly might be a good one.

Everyone here can discuss this until they're blue in the face. It doesn't change anything about the situation. If the pilot loses his permit, then so be it, the decision was made. If the pilot kept his permit, again, the decision was made. I'm not debating what should have or shouldn't have been done. I'm debating that it's pointless for anyone to state that these pilots should have lost their permit.

Good day.

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Of course it's pointless to state that, but it is my opinion. However, I do not have the power to withdraw that girl's license.

There were about 118 passengers IIRC on-board, it was a commercial (Lufthansa) flight.
What does that have to do with anything ? Even if it was an empty cargo plane, it was still a misjudgement to continue the landing after 0.35.

Cross-wind landings are a fact of flying, and I bet a dozen planes landed before (and after) that one without problems. The thing is, this was a storm, not a steady cross-wind. I actually drove alongside one of Schiphol's runways during that storm and saw how the planes were landing, amazing to see.

If it's done right it looks like this:


Looks scary,uncomfortable, but no problems there.

The fact that a person deserves to be allowed to fly such planes full of people is in the fact that they take split-second decisions ALWAYS in the favor of safety. The pilot should have broken off the landing at 0.35 when the plane dips out of control. She didn't so I say no more flying missy !

(By the way, the captain did an amazing job in getting it out of trouble AFTER he took over, that has to be said too).

Level42:
Luckely, they did find out what really happened in the cockpit:

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=8rbZg_Y3AgY&feature=related[/youtube]


(Amazing how well those German pilots speak French :P)

Level42:
Nice shot:

danny_galaga:

--- Quote from: Level42 on May 05, 2008, 05:48:57 pm ---
(By the way, the captain did an amazing job in getting it out of trouble AFTER he took over, that has to be said too).


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that is a bigger question to me- why the first officer let his judgement lapse and let the way less experienced second officer land in such conditions. he did an amazing job AFTER cocking up badly  ;)

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