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FrizzleFried:
Here it is:


--- Quote ---Dear xxxxxxxxxxx,

You recently listed the following auction-style listing:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX - NEW 48-IN-1 Classic Arcade Multicade JAMMA Game Board


The listing was removed because it violated eBay policy. All fees related to this listing have been credited to your account. We also notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has
been canceled.



The rights owner, Namco Bandai Games Inc., notified eBay that this listing violates intellectual property rights. When eBay receives a report of
this type of violation, we remove the listing to comply with the law. [emphasis mine]




Copyright infringement is unlawful and against eBay's policies. Copyright is the protection provided by law to the authors of creative works, such as movies, music, software, photographs and books, both published and unpublished. Copyright owners possess the exclusive right to reproduce the copyrighted work, to distribute copies of the copyrighted work, and to perform or display the copyrighted work publicly.

eBay prohibits the listing of unauthorized copies of copyrighted works. Unauthorized copies include (but are not limited to) backup, pirated, duplicated, or bootlegged copies.

Guideline: If the product you are selling is a copy of another work that you aren't authorized to copy, don't list the item.

Selling pirated or unauthorized copies of media material is a copyright infringement and is not permitted on eBay.

For more information visit the following Help page:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html

- Take eBay's brief tutorial on Intellectual Property Policies and VeRO
- Read the ended listings FAQ at http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/vero-removed-listing.html
- Ask eBay a question using the link on the above help page

To take the intellectual property tutorial, please visit:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/tutorial/verotutorial/intro.html

Please be aware that any additional violations of this policy may result in the suspension of your account. eBay understands that you may be concerned about this situation.We encourage you to contact Namco Bandai Games Inc. directly if you have any questions. You can send an email to:

pac03@namcobandaigames.com

For more information on how eBay protects Intellectual Property visit the following Help page:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/programs-vero-ov.html




For more information on why eBay may remove a listing, please visit:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/listing-ended.html

Thank you for your understanding.


Sincerely,

eBay Trust & Safety
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ark_ader:

--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on March 04, 2008, 12:54:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: pinballjim on March 04, 2008, 11:34:28 am ---
--- Quote from: AndyWarne on March 04, 2008, 10:42:31 am ---One answer to this is Nintendo of America will. They have successfully prosecuted and fined people for selling and coin-operating multi-game boards with Donkey Kong or other Nintendo games. They won't go after someone using one at home but the OP mentioned siting one which implies coin-operation and they will act on this if they find out.
They also have Ebay listings removed which mention these boards if they list any Nintendo games.

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Got any proof of this? 

I've got proof of half a dozen Ebay auctions I've brought to their attention that they've done absolutely nothing about.



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I can tell you for sure that Namco gets ebay auctions killed.  Mine was.  I got a nice little letter from ebay stating that Namco had complained that I was selling a bootleg of their product and they killed my auction and told me not to post another one.  I haven't.

Do you want the email?   Let me go look for it.

EDIT: Nice to know you're a snitch BTW...between this and you sending someone to a bogus address to pick up a "FREE" cabinet,  it's obvious...you're all class all the time. 

 :tool:



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Andy you bad boy!   :laugh2:

Well if you try to sell something on ebay, please make sure it is squeaky clean.  Its a no brainer.   :P


--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on March 01, 2008, 05:13:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: spacies on March 01, 2008, 12:38:06 am ---I am not being a jerk about anything.
The x in 1 boards are out there. Everyone knows it. The MAMEdevs, the frontend owners, the original companies that made the games (if they are still going), everyone!
Every time a thread pops up someone screams you will be prosecuted for owning one. I want to know who is going to do it?

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You most certainly are being a jerk....... I said that you can be prosecuted for using one in a commercial application.

I never said that anybody was going to come knocking on your door and arrest you for owning one.  It'd be a waste of time and effort and money to go after a single individual.

But if you run a bar and put one in there and charge people for the privilage of playing it, then don't come crying when you're facing million dollar law suits and the loss of your trading licences.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

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I think Fozzy should make an example to show his point in this debate.  I would like to see Fozzy deleating and destroying all his MAME roms in his collection, and go out and buy the licensed versions from the vendors involved, except Namco, Nintendo , Bally and Taito.

That way he can then understand the meaning  (yet again) of "throwing stones".   :banghead:

After your exhaustive search, Fozzy, you can then advise us on the legal perspective.     ::)


--- Quote from: Jdurg on March 01, 2008, 02:42:30 pm ---Depending on the state, it could be the state's Attorney General who would shut it down and issue fines in order to fatten the state's wallet.

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This has to be the best answer.  Remember the argument of modding Xboxes?  And that dingdong in Cambridge got busted for including games in his sales?  Well I would not like to be the biggest dingdong and have my name in engadget for dealing in dodgy roms.  Because that stink never goes away.   :o
FrizzleFried:
Who's Andy?

 :dunno
CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on March 04, 2008, 01:38:19 pm ---Who's Andy?

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Isn't he that guy from that WildGalaxianChase(tm) ?

 ;)
DaveMMR:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on March 04, 2008, 01:33:56 pm ---I think Fozzy should make an example to show his point in this debate.  I would like to see Fozzy deleating and destroying all his MAME roms in his collection, and go out and buy the licensed versions from the vendors involved, except Namco, Nintendo , Bally and Taito.

That way he can then understand the meaning  (yet again) of "throwing stones".   :banghead:

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Yeah, umm, the only way he's "throwing stones" is if he's putting said roms in a public machine and charging people to play them.  That's the topic at hand here.   I didn't catch that Fozzy, or anyone, was taking issue with just owning a 39-in-1 board or MAME roms or whatever for their own personal, non-commercial, non-profit home use.
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