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mountain:
Wow... :banghead:


--- Quote ---First of all, yes there is. I've already mentioned the advantages. You can pretend like I didn't so that you don't have to refute anything specific, but that doesn't make the advantages go away.

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Please show me proof that cutting stranded copper wire increases any chance of oxidation. Exposing it to the changes in temperature and humidity, yeah, wire cutter...no. So you better put that handy little razor blade of yours back in the Playskool tool kit it came from and let us who know what we're doing have all of the fun.

Assuming one uses the right crimpers, and the right wire, there are no advantages to your technique.

According to your logic, when I go to rewire my basement, I think I will try to wire every circuit up with one long piece of wire. Hell, it might take a little longer but at least I won't be cutting any of that precious wire.


--- Quote ---Possibly. You know that the same thing could be said for any run of wire in an arcade machine, right? Since you are such a fan of cutting and splicing wires in a circuit, that you make a point of doing it to the ground loop even though it is 100% unnecessary, why don't you do it to the rest of your wires too? Go through all your wiring and cut it every 6" or so, then crimp it back together; because it will still work if you crimp properly and it seems to be the trendy thing to do.

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Hmm...why don't you go ask the two main encoder suppliers on this board how they recommend to do it. The whole daisy chain concept has been around forever and the both of these companies mention it in their manuals.


 

TheShanMan:
MaximumRecoil, that was a pretty weak rebuttal. You're dealing in theory which doesn't apply in a practical sense to this situation. Why don't we all just stick to our preferred method of connecting grounds and stop worrying about such fine points. :dizzy:
MaximRecoil:

--- Quote from: mountain on February 26, 2008, 12:26:16 am ---Please show me proof that cutting stranded copper wire increases any chance of oxidation. Exposing it to the changes in temperature and humidity, yeah, wire cutter...no. So you better put that handy little razor blade of yours back in the Playskool tool kit it came from and let us who know what we're doing have all of the fun.
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You either didn't read or didn't understand what I said. Generally the two wires are twisted together and then crimped. Oxidation of copper can affect the connection in a twisted wire splice. Ideally, the crimp connector will be the "tie that binds" so to speak, and prevent any problems, but that is assuming a perfect crimp; something for which the margin of error decreases as you add more wires to the single crimp connector.


--- Quote ---Assuming one uses the right crimpers, and the right wire, there are no advantages to your technique.
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And there are no advantages to your technique, only a greater potential for issues due to a decreased margin for error.


--- Quote ---According to your logic, when I go to rewire my basement, I think I will try to wire every circuit up with one long piece of wire. Hell, it might take a little longer but at least I won't be cutting any of that precious wire.
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Again, your reading difficulties are apparent. Splices in wiring are properly used as necessary, not gratuitously.


--- Quote ---Hmm...why don't you go ask the two main encoder suppliers on this board how they recommend to do it. The whole daisy chain concept has been around forever and the both of these companies mention it in their manuals.
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I'll take that as a "No, I don't want to go and add a bunch of unnecessary breaks/splices to the rest of my wiring like I did to the ground loop."

BTW, you do realize that nearly all problems with wiring will be found at the various connection/splice points, don't you? And this is even with professional crimps/splices/connections from the factory. Rarely does quality stranded wire of a suitable gauge simply break inside the insulation to cause a problem.

These are potential problem points later on, which is why they are used as necessary, rather than just for the fun of it.
MaximRecoil:

--- Quote from: TheShanMan on February 26, 2008, 12:48:40 am ---MaximumRecoil, that was a pretty weak rebuttal.
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Haven't you heard? All "rebuttals" that one doesn't personally agree with are "weak" (lol).

BTW, when you see the word "Maxim" on the screen, how do you come up with "Maximum" from that? I'm curious because I see it a lot, so it obviously isn't a typo.
TheShanMan:
Sorry, maximrecoil. I'm letting you have the last word on this one because I don't see any point in arguing about it anymore. Cutting or not cutting is such an irrelevant issue IMO - do whatever works for you.
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