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| BASS!:
I know a lot of people have talked about this. Many people have taken the code and gone many ways to play their favorite games Raine Zinc Kawaks Cps3 Crystal system etc I like that Mame emulates everything. I just filter the mame games I can't play and just use the various emulators from my frontend. Now that I have a better computer, I no longer use Raine, Kawaks, Cps3. As the hardware evolves I will stop using other emulators. I don't want them to bloat the code too much just to play a soccer game I myself will never play, or in that case 75 new japanese 3d mahjong games. Just get it to archive everything, and the clever will figure out how to bring the newly surfaced ripped roms to a emulator near you ;D Just my opinion |
| u_rebelscum:
If it was easy, mame might have it already. It's not easy. A couple dozen arcade 3d hardware systems, running on a range of PC hardware, emulated so it's cross platform-ish. If the speed increase was huge for most games, mame might have it already. It would be no increase for 90-95% of the games in mame*, and mame would still not be as fast as the other emus in those games that would speed up. If people who don't code stopped bugging MameDev about using 3d HW, mame might get it. It's going to happen, but not soon, and a lot more not-sooner if they are bugged about it. *How calculated: 6948 games * 5% = ~347 games, 10% = ~694 games. I don't think mame has 700 3d hardware games yet, and am thinking 5% is closer, unless you include games like Irobot and HardDrivin' and others that 3d in software in the original machines. |
| Fozzy The Bear:
--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on February 22, 2008, 06:01:20 pm ---If people who don't code stopped bugging MameDev about using 3d HW, mame might get it. --- End quote --- I do code!....... I don't code Mame, I do code 3D... So! by your logic that entitles me to. In any case, this is not bugging the developers, if I wanted to do that I'd go do it on their forum and repeat it persistently. I didn't. It's a question to see what people here actually want in Mame, in the hope that knowing it's what people want to see in there, the Devs will start to take notice of the apparently 75% of end users on here that want to see that happen. That's just a bit more subtle and polite than bugging them about it, which is not being done here. --- Quote from: Xiaou2 on February 22, 2008, 03:30:53 pm ---Not everybody is going to own the same Graphics card. And more than likely, each card will vary in its power and timings. If thats the case... then that could throw off the entire timing of the events. --- End quote --- 3D Acceleration doesn't work like that. Yes people have different graphics cards, but so do people running commercial PC games. 3D acceleration is about running speed and frame rates of the graphics, not the timing rates coded in the game. Those are separate entities and have separate timing cycles. Best Regards, Julian (Fozzy The Bear) |
| nipsmg:
Regardless of the "demand" of users here, I don't see 3d acceleration anytime soon. Mame has been able to keep its purity for some time now. Sure there were a few missteps, but they've pretty much kept to their original plan. If the "demand" is high enough, I'm sure some other standalone emulators (i.e. ZINC, etc) will come out to give you 3d accelerated versions of these games. Dont' forget, MAME is a project that is built on the backs of tons of volunteers, people who take their time for free and, for the most part, do this for the love of the hobby. I've teen plenty of emulator authors quit coding their projects due to the "demands" of end users. Nobody is entitled to anything. I'm sure someone will do something. If not, get a book, learn some ASM and c/c++, and start coding! I wish I had the time, or I would too :( |
| CheffoJeffo:
As much as I don't always agree with the MAMEDevs, I almost always disagree with folks who think the Devs should place priorities on playing games as opposed to what they do. At the very least, they have to choose what to do with their time. As we all know, time can be hard to come by. Otherwise we would all have shiny repro Tron sticks and StarWars yokes coming out our collective ying yangs ... ;) |
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