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| Fozzy The Bear:
OK so, I know that the Mame Devs don't have much interest in adding propper 3D hardware support to Mame. Why that is, beats the hell out out of me :dizzy: I just don't understand why they can't grasp that using the capabilities of the up to date hardware we have is a good idea. Right now, in my humble oppinion, running Mame is a bit like running windows 3.11 on a quad core. It doesn't make sense to me. I know that they claim the purpose of Mame is to archive the original software for the future, but IMHO if we didn't play it, then nobody would much give a damn about that and it would end up being up to museums and national archives to deal with. That of course is not what we want. So..... What do all of you think. Best Regards, Julian (Fozzy The Bear) |
| nipsmg:
I have to go with the mamedevs on this one. They're always kind of walking this interesting line of legality with the project, and due to their actions and some of their policies (i.e., not emulating revenue generating games, etc) they have kept themselves from being sued into the dirt by the game manufacturers so far. I trust in their judgement on this. If you're going to truly emulate a game, you have to emulate most if not all of the components, including the 3d accelerator used in the game. This is obviously a bottleneck, but sidestepping it defeats the purpose and starts to poison mame with all kinds of hacks that would get ugly quick. What i would LOVe to see though, is the ability to offload some of the processing over to the GPU. I've seen applications for this before and that might be an interesting compromise. |
| shardian:
I can't really think of any non-playable 3-d games that I really want to play that bad. Once you get into that era, there are arcade perfect ports on consoles and PC. The only thing you wouldn't have is coin-op. Also, adding that kind of support to MAME would more than likely bog down and bloat the code, and cause problems with the 4000 other games that are already perfectly fine. |
| Fozzy The Bear:
--- Quote from: shardian on February 22, 2008, 09:35:08 am ---I can't really think of any non-playable 3-d games that I really want to play that bad. Once you get into that era, there are arcade perfect ports on consoles and PC. The only thing you wouldn't have is coin-op. --- End quote --- True... but when games like Daytona, Manx TT, Time Chrisis 2, Virtua Cop series, House Of The Dead etc etc are now falling out of the time limits, isn't it time that Mame could run them?? Or is Mame really just about running 80's and very early 90's stuff?? Best Regards, Julian (Fozzy The Bear) |
| shardian:
--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on February 22, 2008, 09:39:48 am --- Or is Mame really just about running 80's and very early 90's stuff?? Best Regards, Julian (Fozzy The Bear) --- End quote --- I believe "running" is the key word there. They'll document the new stuff, but it is just too much work for too little payoff to streamline them to run on current pc hardware. Don't worry Fozzy, once the late 90's early 00's games are 10-20 years old, I'm sure our pc's will run them just fine. |
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