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| MaximRecoil:
--- Quote from: WunderCade on March 17, 2008, 01:56:09 am ---Mine returns to center it's just real jiggly. I can jiggle it around. I've looked underneath the CP and there is some space between the contacts and shaft of the stick. That's the only thing I can see that allows it to jiggle around on center instead of being snug. Now, mind you...I have not cleaned and re-greased the middle bearing. Maybe some grease will take care of some of that jiggle.lol --- End quote --- They do that by design. There is a certain amount of free travel in any direction before they trip a microswitch and because of the light spring, there is not a lot of force keeping them "centered". They are never going to feel like say, a Happ Competion, because they have a different design. |
| blkdog7:
--- Quote from: WunderCade on March 17, 2008, 01:56:09 am ---Mine returns to center it's just real jiggly. I can jiggle it around. I've looked underneath the CP and there is some space between the contacts and shaft of the stick. That's the only thing I can see that allows it to jiggle around on center instead of being snug. Now, mind you...I have not cleaned and re-greased the middle bearing. Maybe some grease will take care of some of that jiggle.lol --- End quote --- That sounds like a Nintendo joystick to me! Get jiggy with it! |
| MaximRecoil:
An update for this old thread, since it gets linked to from time to time when the topic comes up: Mike's Arcade is now not only making reproduction Nintendo joysticks, but he sells the parts for them as well. Two important parts are the spring: And the spring stopper: If you look at the spring stopper on most any old Nintendo joystick you'll see that the top surface of it is grooved/chewed up. Since this surface is always riding against the underside of the bearing cup in the base, that roughness can make the travel of the stick less smooth than it could/should be. Replacing that part may improve things. I talked about this earlier in the thread: --- Quote from: MaximRecoil on February 21, 2008, 05:59:12 pm ---Additionally, over time, that plate gets grooves worn in it, which can create slightly more resistance to that initial movement from center to one of the 4 directions. Having a new plate made by a machinist would be nice (or grinding it down flat again like they do with grooved brake rotors) --- End quote --- But at the time, no replacement part was available. |
| DonkeyKong:
Cool! I'm probably getting some RAM from him soon... now I'll grab a couple sets of those springs and plates and see how they work out. Hopefully the plate is made from a hardened steel, so that it will last another 25 years! |
| Level42:
The nintendo manual says to lubricate the "pillow ball" and restrictor plate every 3 months. Remember that is in an arcade situation, depending on your desire to be King of Kong you may need to do it more or less often :) I played Mike's full panel with the previous "replacement" stick yesterday and I didn' t like it at all. Way to stiff. I'm NOT talking about the new reproductions, this was the stick that came in the complete DK repro CP. It also seemed not correctly mounted, I had to hit the stick against the CP plexi to get it to go up. Sometimes it didn't respond or was just that deciding moment too late. Re-aligning the joystick might fix this, but it wasn't my machine..... I'd like to see Mike make the shaft + ball available too....now I only found the ball. My balls (MB. panel) are stuck to the stick. (yeah yeah, sounds very funny). The balls are worn and the plastic that used to be transparant is of course yellowed and dirty like all of them I guess.... I must say I'm pretty much used to the 2-way sticks on the MB. It works pretty well. I've just cleaned them (not reinstalled yet, replacing the CPO now) so I hope they will even feel better. I do wonder how those will hold up on a 4-way game though. I think the stick maybe too short for 4-way. I'm already playing with my thumb to move the stick instead of the "whole" hand like normaly. Same thing I do on Galaxian. However I'm not sure if that will work ok on a 4-way game. I'd like to try to replace the microswitches with leafs. Maybe GGG's micro-leaf, but real leafs would be great I think. It's hard to place them though I know. I've already replaced the jump buttons with leafs, which was _really_ easy to do. |
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