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| DaveMMR:
--- Quote ---I was thinking PAUSE, SELECT GAME and EXIT GAME for mine. (Of course there will also be P1, P2 and coin drops, but, as you say, those aren't really admin buttons.) Most people don't seem to use a dedicated SELECT GAME button, it seems? --- End quote --- Most just use the Start Button or an action button for "Select Game". |
| genesim:
I guess that is the problem. You sacrfice gameplay for the look. A two, should be played with 2 way. Rotary should always be on the LEFT. Flight stick or top fire is essential for a great many games. Spinner with the left stick on player two seems to be way too far away if one is going to play Tron. No 7th or 8th buttons for Neo Geo or Console. No buttons at all for the roller ball???? I guess the set up is basic, but there is sure alot missing. Yeah for the casual gamer most games will work, but for the hardcore, so many are left out. I guess that is where a frankenpanel comes in. One I am currently rewiring for the 4th time. ::) ::) I am getting to old for this..but I am jealous of the clean wiring job. |
| DaveMMR:
--- Quote from: genesim on February 09, 2008, 07:00:51 pm ---I guess that is the problem. You sacrfice gameplay for the look. A two, should be played with 2 way. Rotary should always be on the LEFT. Flight stick or top fire is essential for a great many games. Spinner with the left stick on player two seems to be way too far away if one is going to play Tron. No 7th or 8th buttons for Neo Geo or Console. No buttons at all for the roller ball???? I guess the set up is basic, but there is sure alot missing. Yeah for the casual gamer most games will work, but for the hardcore, so many are left out. I guess that is where a frankenpanel comes in. One I am currently rewiring for the 4th time. ::) ::) I am getting to old for this..but I am jealous of the clean wiring job. I guess that is the problem. You sacrfice gameplay for the look. --- End quote --- With joysticks (especially those with on-the-fly mapping capabilities - i.e. U360, 49-ways with GGG encoder), a single trackball and spinner, you cover a overwhelming majority of the games playable in MAME. If you need a whole lot of different control options, you're better off going modular, design your panels to be swapped out easily or build dedicated cabs. It's not really only about looks. Too many controls on one panel, and it becomes nearly unplayable. "Use the third joystick on the left to move and the middle row of nine buttons to fire, jump and use magic respectively. Just reach around the Star Wars Yoke". Yeah, that'll be fun... having to recite something similar for every single game, even the simple ones like Pac-Man and Donkey Kong. --- Quote ---No 7th or 8th buttons for Neo Geo or Console. No buttons at all for the roller ball???? --- End quote --- And you only need 4 buttons for Neo-Geo. The 7th button is added to a standard set of six to line them up like the original layout, but you technically do not need it. EDIT: Fixed quote layout. |
| genesim:
I don't see how it isn't fun. Yeah a starwars yoke is overbearing, but then again, it is only a glorified flight stick anyway, so a regular flight stick will do(not to diss the people that love the original feel....GO FOR IT!). The fact is, if one can walk up and use the controls, I don't see how that is any more confusing then someone having to reprogram the controls?? Incidently, I don't know how evel's panel does the neogeo very well, because even with the 4 button layout, it is way off shifted. Yeah, call me crazy, but having the 4th button in the 7th position is very nice indeed. Though I sacrifice it being centered, it still is alot better then every button being off. But that aside, having a 7th button has other uses like having an extra programmable button and of course cosole new cosole games like psx, ps2, xbox, xbox360..etc That is a whole nother world of games. To me, no, it isn't convenient swapping out hardware. Its like the total gym, yeah it sounds nice, but by the time you move that heavy bastard you already have a workout. I would rather have a weight bench you walk right up to and play. While the spinning kind looks nice, that too seems to busy. People get so hung up on "looks" and forget that playing the most games is the important, if you want to keep playing games. Favorites can get stale from time to time, and it is nice if you want to explore, that you have the controls right there. I think the only short coming I have on my control is 2 player roller ball. Perhaps with Andy's new thing, this will be possible. But I may finally have to redesign. I sure would like to play atari football and basketball, because back in the day on the consoles, they were strangely alot of fun! |
| CheffoJeffo:
It is a tradeoff -- which controls do you add? How many trackballs ? How many spinners ? What type of joysticks ? Restrictor plates ? Wheels ? Pedals ? How many buttons and where ? Admin buttons vs keyboard ? Which emulators ? Do I really need the NeoGeo button layout ? For some the object will be playing as many games as possible (nothing wrong with that, I belonged to that club once). For others it will be trying to recreate a specific experience (nothing wrong with that, I'm in that club now). For some, it will be a matter of space. For others, space is not an issue. The new sticks that can be programmed on the fly (by the FE, so the user doesn't need to do anything) have made things quite a bit cleaner. It does come down to what you want to do with your cabinet. Playing the most games isn't always the right answer, hence the fact that frankenpanels aren't universally endorsed as the way to go. It may be for some, but it won't be for many. Having said that, there have been some very well-designed frankenpanels. I personally like Knievel's CP layouts as they are always tight, clean and functional (they won't play everything, but they will plays lots of stuff really well). He's got, what, 3 MAMEys so far and has built more cabs than I ever will, so there is some comfort in copying his layouts. --- Quote from: genesim on February 10, 2008, 07:36:57 am --- I sure would like to play atari football and basketball, because back in the day on the consoles, they were strangely alot of fun! --- End quote --- Agreed ... although they were better in the arcades with those hundred-pound trackballs and the resulting blisters ... ;) |
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