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| Daniel B.:
I just ordered my v2 trackball, along w/ 50ft of t molding. Couple of quick questions (I'm really not trying to get OT here, but to save another new thread)... I don't have any type of lighting controller, I understand you just connect the color you want to the ground? So in this case, I want the ball to glow red, I wire the red control wire to the Ground? Also - mouse buttons....can I use existing buttons for mouse buttons or do I need to add additional? I'd like to use this in windows, I have a keywiz currently, that I've yet to wire. I'd like to re-use buttons. Thanks all! |
| Level42:
As to give a clue about the weight of the ball being important: I just improved my personal record with over 12000 points ! This was my first serious try to improve it after I installed the ball. I can do this seriously only when wife and kid are not around..... 67344 is my new record now... :laugh: |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: patrickl on February 18, 2008, 12:59:38 pm ---On the other hand, the ball also seems to look a bit pink instead of red when the picture isn't taken in the dark. --- End quote --- Patrick, please read what he wrote: --- Quote from: Level42 on February 16, 2008, 12:05:12 pm ---Looking back at those pictures I think they don't do the ball and button justice. What seems overly bright (almost white) light, is a very nice red even glow....it is very hard to make a picture that shows the real look of it. It was hard to see the game picture on the monitor, that's how bright it was: --- End quote --- The ball isn't "pink" and you don't need to be "in the dark" for it to be red. It is just the camera's way of "making sense" of the overall image. Most cameras don't do well with pictures of light sources. The automatic exposure settings drop like crazy when metered on the light source, which shows the light source well, but makes everything else in the frame look pitch black. And if the light on the cab is so intense that one can barely see the screen of the CRT (washout) then obviously that same intense light will affect the appearance of the diffuser (trackball). They haven't made a transmissive material that transmits visible light in only one direction. The laws of physics state that you can't. :) RandyT |
| patrickl:
I read what he wrote and I saw the pictures. He took the picture in an unlit kitchen and it burned out the image of the ball losing color. Indeed that could be seen as a metering issue, but I wasn't talking about that situation. I'm talking about the situation where the room is properly lit. Ambient light will always overpower the LED to some extent and bring back the white depending on the ratio of ambient light versus the LED. As the sun lit images show, given enough ambient light the ball turns almost completely white. That's not a metering issue. That's simply the laws of physics. |
| Level42:
To an extend, patrick is right. I do think it's not 100% possible to give a very deep red (like the red that comes from coin entry buttons) with a LED light source. A white incadescent light source has almost a full range of visible light frequencies. A LED is very limited. Most ultra-bright "RED" LED's look a bit orange-ish to me. The Nova-led, is much better in that way. However, yes the white material tends to "shift" the light a bit towards a lighter-red (SURELY not pink) in bright light. The darker it gets, the less this seems to be the case. Now, I personaly think that an arcade cab should never be in a very bright environment. Arcades were pretty dark, and there were reasons for that (CRT brightness, the effect of lights on pins etc.) My to-be-built "arcade" will be properly "lit". I KNOW it's going to look great, whatever the weather or time of day. I think the only way of getting an evern deeper/darker red is by using a red translucent ball. But I don't want a red ball for the reasons I already mentioned. If things go well, I will be able to do a comparison between the balls of Randy and Andy in the near future. I am very satisfied with the ICE ball. The improvement over the Happ orange/red ball is dramatic both in looks and in feel. The look is very,very attrative and I really think it spices up the Centipede's CPO AND the machine as a whole. [Edit] I think the picure that only shows the button, ball and part of the screen is the best match to the real look. Note that I did NOT take that picture in the dark ! It _was_ at night, but I had the usual lights on in the kitchen. My camera is pretty good , especialy in color (Fujifilm S6500fd). |
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